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Contemplating a new camera body. 7D MKII or 1DX?
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Apr 10, 2015 07:33:12   #
Gary Truchelut Loc: Coldspring, TX
 
I now shoot with the 7d coupled with any one of several L lenses. I know from my research that the 1dx of course is one of the best bodies on the market but the cost is up there for me. I could buy the 1dx used or a new 7d mkII. Anyone out there shot with both of these bodies. My main objective is to be able to shoot in lower light with less noise. From what I've read the 1dx wins on that point but will cost me around $2200 more than the 7d mkII. The other concern is, how long I keep my equipment and this purchase will have to last at least 5-7 years. By that time, I may not be shooting any more or may not want the weight and large size to deal with. Any input would be appreciated and I would really like to see some examples of shots with both cameras. Thanks in advance.

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Apr 10, 2015 07:53:38   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Gary Truchelut wrote:
I now shoot with the 7d coupled with any one of several L lenses. I know from my research that the 1dx of course is one of the best bodies on the market but the cost is up there for me.

Yes, cost is always a big concern, and you might not be getting the best value from your money simply buying the most expensive camera. I don't spend money without reading reviews and comparisons.

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Apr 10, 2015 09:20:05   #
Bob Yankle Loc: Burlington, NC
 
The new 7D MK II surprised me - it has a very quiet shutter "slap", even in burst mode.

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Apr 10, 2015 09:47:08   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
Gary Truchelut wrote:
I now shoot with the 7d coupled with any one of several L lenses. I know from my research that the 1dx of course is one of the best bodies on the market but the cost is up there for me. I could buy the 1dx used or a new 7d mkII. Anyone out there shot with both of these bodies. My main objective is to be able to shoot in lower light with less noise. From what I've read the 1dx wins on that point but will cost me around $2200 more than the 7d mkII. The other concern is, how long I keep my equipment and this purchase will have to last at least 5-7 years. By that time, I may not be shooting any more or may not want the weight and large size to deal with. Any input would be appreciated and I would really like to see some examples of shots with both cameras. Thanks in advance.
I now shoot with the 7d coupled with any one of se... (show quote)


Here is my take. Your second to last sentence should be the key to your choice. Withe the cost of the 1DX it should be a long term investment. If there is even a hint that you will not be shooting for more than 5 or so years, don't spend the big bucks for the 1DX, unless you are a pro and can write off the expense. For that matter if noise is the only reason you are considering an upgrade, a good de- noising. PP program will meet that need. the 7d is a terrific camera, unless it has a great deal of clicks on it, why not keep it, and spend the 1600 or so on fast glass. Thats my opinion, I am very conservative about spending money on gear that may only be used for a short term. I know that 5 years does not seem like short term but take it from me it is.

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Apr 10, 2015 09:50:07   #
davidrb Loc: Half way there on the 45th Parallel
 
Gary Truchelut wrote:
I now shoot with the 7d coupled with any one of several L lenses. I know from my research that the 1dx of course is one of the best bodies on the market but the cost is up there for me. I could buy the 1dx used or a new 7d mkII. Anyone out there shot with both of these bodies. My main objective is to be able to shoot in lower light with less noise. From what I've read the 1dx wins on that point but will cost me around $2200 more than the 7d mkII. The other concern is, how long I keep my equipment and this purchase will have to last at least 5-7 years. By that time, I may not be shooting any more or may not want the weight and large size to deal with. Any input would be appreciated and I would really like to see some examples of shots with both cameras. Thanks in advance.
I now shoot with the 7d coupled with any one of se... (show quote)


Gary, you are trying to compare a Lexus with a Ferrari. Both are fine vehicles, but one does everything the other only hopes to do. The 1Dx is the flagship of the fleet, the 7DMkII is a great motion shooter for cropped frames. The differences here warrant rentals so you can compare the two. They aren't as close as you might think. GL

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Apr 10, 2015 10:20:58   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
The price on the 5DIII has come down to almost half the original price. It has the focus system of the 1DX, larger pixel count, a lower weight (but not that much lower). What it can't do is shoot as fast as either the 1DX or 7DII. You could rent the higher end competitors in this race and get a hands-on sense.

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Apr 10, 2015 16:09:08   #
Gary Truchelut Loc: Coldspring, TX
 
I've been reading reviews and recommendations for a while now and my gut says go with the 1dx but my mind isn't completely made up yet. I looked at many images shot with both cameras under lab conditions and there is no comparison on noise at higher ISO numbers. The 1dx wins that battle hands down. I also do quite a bit of landscape photography and would like the full frame sensor. I pretty much have all L glass with the exception of an ultra wide angle for those great sky shots and landscape, sunset shots. The money difference is quite a bit but if I intend on keeping this body, I think I'll get my moneys worth out of it and it's resale value will not go down as much as the 7d mkii. I do sell some of my work and I do some portraits as well, so I think 1dx again will do a better job and maybe it will even pay for itself.
I think I've talked myself right into a 1dx, but I'll keep you posted as soon as I Hit the buy button.
Thanks for all the input and time you spent helping me.

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Apr 10, 2015 21:09:01   #
BebuLamar
 
If it's true like an earlier post said that you don't use it for more than 5 years then I don't think you should get the 1DX because of its cost. Otherwise get the 1DX because you said you have several L lenses and correct me if I am wrong that all the L lenses are for full frame. I would prefer to use full frame lenses on full frame camera.

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Apr 10, 2015 23:32:48   #
davidrb Loc: Half way there on the 45th Parallel
 
Gary Truchelut wrote:
I've been reading reviews and recommendations for a while now and my gut says go with the 1dx but my mind isn't completely made up yet. I looked at many images shot with both cameras under lab conditions and there is no comparison on noise at higher ISO numbers. The 1dx wins that battle hands down. I also do quite a bit of landscape photography and would like the full frame sensor. I pretty much have all L glass with the exception of an ultra wide angle for those great sky shots and landscape, sunset shots. The money difference is quite a bit but if I intend on keeping this body, I think I'll get my moneys worth out of it and it's resale value will not go down as much as the 7d mkii. I do sell some of my work and I do some portraits as well, so I think 1dx again will do a better job and maybe it will even pay for itself.
I think I've talked myself right into a 1dx, but I'll keep you posted as soon as I Hit the buy button.
Thanks for all the input and time you spent helping me.
I've been reading reviews and recommendations for ... (show quote)


You have made your decision, now make your choice.......14 fps.....

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Apr 11, 2015 01:42:13   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
Gary Truchelut wrote:
I've been reading reviews and recommendations for a while now and my gut says go with the 1dx but my mind isn't completely made up yet. I looked at many images shot with both cameras under lab conditions and there is no comparison on noise at higher ISO numbers. The 1dx wins that battle hands down. I also do quite a bit of landscape photography and would like the full frame sensor. I pretty much have all L glass with the exception of an ultra wide angle for those great sky shots and landscape, sunset shots. The money difference is quite a bit but if I intend on keeping this body, I think I'll get my moneys worth out of it and it's resale value will not go down as much as the 7d mkii. I do sell some of my work and I do some portraits as well, so I think 1dx again will do a better job and maybe it will even pay for itself.
I think I've talked myself right into a 1dx, but I'll keep you posted as soon as I Hit the buy button.
Thanks for all the input and time you spent helping me.
I've been reading reviews and recommendations for ... (show quote)


Gary, a couple of things. Other than you mentioning sunsets, and your tagline saying you shoot nature, you never even mention what you shoot? Outline the problem first, then find the solution!
The 1dx is a serious sports camera. Most of the nature I see does not require a 1dx.
There is also the part that the 1dx is 2mp less on top of the fact that you instantly lose 1/3 of the native reach of the crop camera. Birds will be a LOT harder.
No doubt the 1dx does everything better than a 7ll, but you will have to work header for every shot to make it worth the money.
How soon are you looking at getting the new camera? I ask because the weekend of the 18-19 I will be shooting a lot with the 1dx to compare it to my 7ll. I'd be glad to report back if you have not already succumbed to the GAS! :lol:
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Apr 11, 2015 02:59:20   #
Haydon
 
If you're interested in low light performance and low noise with the fastest frame rate, the 1Dx. The only problem with a full frame will be the crop factor loss which gives you the feeling of less reach with your lenses.

I own a 1D body and I can tell you, it's hard to use less after your spoiled on this level.

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Apr 11, 2015 06:29:46   #
yaterman96 Loc: Southern North Carolina
 
Have both an hands down the 1dx wins every time. If you are one that hates noise 1dx wins buy a long shot with me. Had two original 7ds an hated the noise. Would not use it over 800 ISO. I use the new 7d2 a lot for walking around with new 100-400 ll. Great combo in good light. I try to use nothing higher than ISO 200. Its super clean. I have shot it at ISO 1600 an with a good noise reduction software they are pretty good. I shoot mainly birds an when you crop, everything is magnified,so the back ground can b cleaned up but any NR on the bird you lose detail. If you got the money its the !DX.

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Apr 11, 2015 06:43:57   #
AntonioReyna Loc: Los Angeles, California
 
Shooting with a 1D body is like riding in a 68 Camaro SS. The first time I shot a 1DsII in the camera store, I knew I had to get one, so I did.

Haydon wrote:
If you're interested in low light performance and low noise with the fastest frame rate, the 1Dx. The only problem with a full frame will be the crop factor loss which gives you the feeling of less reach with your lenses.

I own a 1D body and I can tell you, it's hard to use less after your spoiled on this level.

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Apr 11, 2015 06:50:09   #
Gary Truchelut Loc: Coldspring, TX
 
I'm not quite ready to buy so I would be glad to see some images and get your in the field report on the 1dx vs 7dII.
SharpShooter wrote:
Gary, a couple of things. Other than you mentioning sunsets, and your tagline saying you shoot nature, you never even mention what you shoot? Outline the problem first, then find the solution!
The 1dx is a serious sports camera. Most of the nature I see does not require a 1dx.
There is also the part that the 1dx is 2mp less on top of the fact that you instantly lose 1/3 of the native reach of the crop camera. Birds will be a LOT harder.
No doubt the 1dx does everything better than a 7ll, but you will have to work header for every shot to make it worth the money.
How soon are you looking at getting the new camera? I ask because the weekend of the 18-19 I will be shooting a lot with the 1dx to compare it to my 7ll. I'd be glad to report back if you have not already succumbed to the GAS! :lol:
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Apr 11, 2015 06:56:50   #
lukan Loc: Chicago, IL
 
As many on this forum already know, I fortuitously "fell into" my 1DX after shooting with a variety of camera bodies, including at one time a 7D. There is NO comparison between the 7D and 1DX. Someone before me mentioned a 5DMkiii having the "same" autofocus system as the 1DX: only the software structure, not the full operational package. The 1DX has three processors! It has 2 Digic 5s and a Digic 4 (just for exposures). The speed and accuracy of this camera is mind-blowing, especially when you see the photo-product that you generate from the 18mp sensor. It has wonderful, large photo sites that are boundary-less, giving the picture an amazing film-like effect. The most beautiful pictures I have taken are with the 1DX, and that includes some portraits.
As far as weight goes, it is no heavier than any other full-frame with a battery grip, and its battery is good for at least 1000 shots.
Get one, and get ready to change your life.

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