Ted Evans Loc: Jasper, AL

In trying to decide whether to sell 7D and buy the 7D mk II , I would love
to hear opinions either way, especially those of you who have used both,
as rental or owned. I cannot afford both. I would be using it mostly for
wildlife. Listening for your input. I will use either with the Canon 70-200
f2.8 (mine) or a rental lens (400 or 500 mm)on vacations to national parks. Watching for your input and respecting experienced opinion.

SharpShooter Loc: NorCal

Ted, I'm going to say that the 7ll is twice the camera the 7l is. If you can afford it, by all means get one.
All that said, the 7l will do 90% of what the 7ll will do, but it's not an absolute must have.
The 7ll has a processor that is 2 generations ahead as is the focus system. If your main shooting is fast action, the new ll has distinct advantages as well as more pixels and WAY better weather sealing.
If you are more occasional with action, then you might want to invest in a lens that could help.
For me, it's always camera first then lens later. You'll see more difference. Just me. Good luck. ;-)
SS

boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander

Here is my $.02. As you do not shoot sports(fast action) the 7d2 won't be that different than the 7d1. You will only get about $500 for the 7d as B+H is selling new 7d for $750. Assuming you sell the 7d and buy the 7d2 you will be spending about $1100. As a result I would keep the camera you have and buy the 100-400 L IS lens for the $1100. Thats my take.

Chris F. Loc: San Francisco

I'm with Sharpshooter! I just had my 7DII at the ball park this past weekend. This camera is freaking awesome! The quickness of the focus, the speed of the camera and the clarity....sweet. I have a 7D for sale if anyone is interested. :) :)

Chris

haroldross Loc: Walthill, Nebraska

These two cameras are very different, it is probably unfair to compare the two of them. The technology in the 7D MK II is amazing. The original 7D was a great camera but the 7D MK III is so much better, especially the AF. My 5D MK III is on hiatus except for those low light situations that I prefer to use the 5D MK III for.

mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey

While the 7D2 is a superior camera in many respects I would be asking myself a couple of questions before I took the plunge. First, and most importantly, is the 7D no longer meeting your needs? Secondly, which improved or new features of the 7D2 would be indispensable to you? If you just are thinking about getting a camera that's new and better, but are not sure how your photography would benefit, perhaps you should hold off for a while until you are more confident with the purchase.

LFingar Loc: Claverack, NY

The only thing I can add is, don't be in a hurry. I had to return my first 7DII because of autofocus issues. The replacement seems fine. An unusually high number of 7DII owners reported similar problems. A great camera and I am very pleased with it, but if I had it to do over I probably would have waited a while longer to make sure all the bugs were overcome.

SharpShooter Loc: NorCal

Ted, now that I've read a the other responses, let me add, that it depends on what and your style of wildlife you shoot. Can you increase what you shoot and take it to another level.
Consider that a Kodak brownie will be all you need if all your shots are of stationary/static wildlife. Even BIF's, if it's all panning shots, those are no brainer easy shots. But if your wildlife is really wild, like puffins flying straight at you or a bear charging at you, those are very difficult shots but those are the most difficult of all shots as well.
Consider that on IF-servo iTr the 7ll has 61 cross points that almost fill the screen! Don't forget the most advanced video available also!
It's an economic choice as well as one that can take what you shoot to the next level on tech alone if you can work the camera into your shooting goals and only you know if it fits into your goals.
New cameras are nice, but face it, the average shooter really only needs a box camera. If all your wildlife just stands there, spend your money on more reach. For wildlife you will never have to much reach! Good luck ;-)
SS

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

If you find you have to limit yourself on ISO with your current 7D, then think about an upgrade. Your lenses don't require a cropped sensor. Before buying new in a 7DII, look at where the new prices on a 5DIII has dropped, or maybe better on used. That camera shoots clean(ish) at 6400 ISO where the orig 7D was a lot of noise clean up above 2000 ISO. If you don't need lower light performance, something new in a camera body might not be where you need to upgrade.

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

Obviously! II is double I. :D

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

I noticed that "NCIS LA" is now using a Canon 7D, rather than a Nikon. I guess some product placement money changed hands.

yaterman96 Loc: Southern North Carolina

Agree with LFingar had to send first one back ,would not focus. New one works fine. Got it for the crop factor. Looks great at iso 200 which I try to shoot. Over iso 200 noise comes into play but using noise reduction image will clean up pretty nice.

Oregon Canon 1960 Loc: St. Helens, Oregon

SS- I believe that the 7D mark II has the 65 cross type focus points, unless I read your reply incorrectly....

I have a 7D mark II and love it, the fast focusing and high ISO with less noise. I shoot some sporting events and wildlife in nature with my 600mm lens mostly birds in flight. With the fast auto focus and tracking I get some great shoots.... Look on youtube there are some videos about the camera and it features....

javahut Loc: Austin, TX US

If you do any type of fast photography (I like F1 and MotoGP) the percentage increase in the number of sharply focused keepers you'll get alone is worth the upgrade to me. Not to mention everything else that's improved. I sold my 7D on Amazon for $550. Sold my old 18-135 is usm, and got the new stm version. It, too, is much sharper and quicker to focus, plus lets you do really decent quality auto focus for video. Sold my old 70-300 is usm, and upgraded to the new 100-400 is usm ii, and added a 1.4x iii extender. I'm hoping to be able to get very close to the IQ I was getting renting the 200-400 w/ built in 1.4 extender, without all the weight and the $500+ weekend rental fees. I 'm thinking it's gonna be very close. Close enough. I should find out this next weekend, as MotoGP will be at CotA! I'm ready to go, and anxious to start shooing!

I know... this reply will not help your pocket book!

RRS Loc: Not sure

Can you really see an increase in noise with the ISO set to over 200, just over 200. I thought that the noise problem had been addressed in the 7DMKII. I do wildlife and lots of BIF and my only complaint with the 7D is the noise. I too have been sitting on the fence. I don't see the same as "SS" on this, I'd rather spend my money on glass first and camera body only when needed.