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Mar 30, 2015 22:52:14 #
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Mar 31, 2015 04:02:44 #
nakkh wrote:
How many of them shoot themselves or someone else by accident every year?
Three.
And two of them still managed to take out a bad guy with the ricochet...
Mar 31, 2015 09:23:32 #
nakkh wrote:
How many of them shoot themselves or someone else by accident every year?
Don't worry nakkh...California's record of 32 consecutive Darwin Award winners is still safe
Mar 31, 2015 10:31:18 #
As long as we can nudge out Florida, I'm happy. ;-)
hondo812 wrote:
Don't worry nakkh...California's record of 32 consecutive Darwin Award winners is still safe
Mar 31, 2015 10:43:27 #
NeilL
Loc: British-born Canadian
nakkh wrote:
How many of them shoot themselves or someone else by accident every year?
A lot less than those k**led by i***ts driving cars.
Mar 31, 2015 10:59:04 #
NeilL wrote:
A lot less than those k**led by i***ts driving cars.
Death by Automobile is dropping every year while death by firearm is rising every year.
In the United States, annual deaths resulting from firearms total
2011: 32,163
2010: 31,672
2009: 31,347
2008: 31,593
2007: 31,224
2006: 30,896
2005: 30,694
2004: 29,569
2003: 30,136
2002: 30,242
2001: 29,573
2000: 28,663
1999: 28,874
Car Deaths
year number of deaths
2013 32,719
2012 33,561
2011 32,479
2010 32,999
2009 33,883
2008 37,423
2007 41,259
2006 42,708
2005 43,510
2004 42,836
2003 42,884
2002 43,005
2001 42,196
2000 41,945
1999 41,717
Mar 31, 2015 11:10:32 #
NeilL
Loc: British-born Canadian
nakkh wrote:
Death by Automobile is dropping every year while d... (show quote)
You are evading the issue. There are one helluva lot less people k**led by the accidental use (deliberate acts are NOT the issue here) of firearms, than by cars. By your figures, even INCLUDING deliberate acts, the car is more lethal.
Mar 31, 2015 11:32:26 #
nakkh wrote:
Death by Automobile is dropping every year while d... (show quote)
Quote your source(s)
I'm looking at the CDC records for 2013 and they show that 21,175 of the gun deaths were suicides and 11,208 were homicides. I doubt that automobiles are the instrument of choice for suicides. Your data is meaningless without more information.
Mar 31, 2015 11:38:43 #
NeilL
Loc: British-born Canadian
hondo812 wrote:
Quote your source(s)
I'm looking at the CDC records for 2013 and they show that 21,175 of the gun deaths were suicides and 11,208 were homicides. I doubt that automobiles are the instrument of choice for suicides. Your data is meaningless without more information.
I'm looking at the CDC records for 2013 and they show that 21,175 of the gun deaths were suicides and 11,208 were homicides. I doubt that automobiles are the instrument of choice for suicides. Your data is meaningless without more information.
Meaningless data comes from a meaningless source.
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Mar 31, 2015 11:51:42 #
nakkh wrote:
Death by Automobile is dropping every year while d... (show quote)
Reviewing another of the CDC tables we see that for 2009 and 2010 respectively, suicides were 36,909 and 38,364 or an increase of 1,455 people. Your data for gun deaths shows an increase of about 330 people for that same time period. It's not unreasonable to think the increase that you are seeing is due to more people taking their own lives. You can go look it up but the data in front of us suggests that about 2/3's of the people that opt for suicide use a gun to do it.
If you are truly interested in saving lives then try helping those that are at suicide risk....or lousy drivers.
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