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Mar 20, 2015 10:21:56   #
Eurolux Loc: NYC
 
To all fellow UHH members, kindly assist with recommending the best option for a monitor calibration system. I am aware of Colormunki and Spyder, but I just purchased a new NEC monitor (PA272W), which I now discovered has its own proprietary system called "Spectraview II".

I'm using LR5 and still learning the ropes. I intend to do both PP for photos and some graphic design too. The new NEC monitor should be my mainstay for awhile, though I might add another monitor for a separate location in the future. If so, I might not purchase another NEC, so I am wondering if the other two calibration systems (Colormunki or Spyder) are truly compatible with my NEC monitor. Ideally, I would own one calibration system that can handle several different brands of monitors.

Thank you all for any and all input.

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Mar 20, 2015 10:24:56   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
If it has its own system, use it.

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Mar 20, 2015 10:37:50   #
Dngallagher Loc: Wilmington De.
 
Eurolux wrote:
To all fellow UHH members, kindly assist with recommending the best option for a monitor calibration system. I am aware of Colormunki and Spyder, but I just purchased a new NEC monitor (PA272W), which I now discovered has its own proprietary system called "Spectraview II".

I'm using LR5 and still learning the ropes. I intend to do both PP for photos and some graphic design too. The new NEC monitor should be my mainstay for awhile, though I might add another monitor for a separate location in the future. If so, I might not purchase another NEC, so I am wondering if the other two calibration systems (Colormunki or Spyder) are truly compatible with my NEC monitor. Ideally, I would own one calibration system that can handle several different brands of monitors.

Thank you all for any and all input.
To all fellow UHH members, kindly assist with reco... (show quote)



I have read good things about Colormunki, also I would not go with a system that was mfg dependent, such as the NEC you talk about as if you move away from NEC or purchase a different monitor later you are back to square one with calibration.

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Mar 20, 2015 10:41:34   #
Capture48 Loc: Arizona
 
Eurolux wrote:
To all fellow UHH members, kindly assist with recommending the best option for a monitor calibration system. I am aware of Colormunki and Spyder, but I just purchased a new NEC monitor (PA272W), which I now discovered has its own proprietary system called "Spectraview II".

I'm using LR5 and still learning the ropes. I intend to do both PP for photos and some graphic design too. The new NEC monitor should be my mainstay for awhile, though I might add another monitor for a separate location in the future. If so, I might not purchase another NEC, so I am wondering if the other two calibration systems (Colormunki or Spyder) are truly compatible with my NEC monitor. Ideally, I would own one calibration system that can handle several different brands of monitors.

Thank you all for any and all input.
To all fellow UHH members, kindly assist with reco... (show quote)


I'm going to disagree with using it's own system. Also do you plan on doing any in home or in studio printing? If so you need a calibration unit that can calibrate a monitor, and a printer. These get to be a little more expensive, but for printing in home, they are needed.

Most calibrating systems, certainly the two you mention can handle many many monitor brands. If you get one that does both monitors and printers, they can run $150 more than just the monitor calibrators.

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Mar 20, 2015 11:02:57   #
Eurolux Loc: NYC
 
Rongnongno wrote:
If it has its own system, use it.


Thanks for the input. If I stick with NEC calibration I'm assured compatability. I see some other useful points made by others too. Will keep reading. Thanks

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Mar 20, 2015 11:03:33   #
Eurolux Loc: NYC
 
Dngallagher wrote:
I have read good things about Colormunki, also I would not go with a system that was mfg dependent, such as the NEC you talk about as if you move away from NEC or purchase a different monitor later you are back to square one with calibration.


Good point. Thanks

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Mar 20, 2015 11:11:03   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
Don't know much about Spectraview II, but it claims to be useable with non-NEC monitors as well. If they are throwing it in for free with your monitor, I would go with it.

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Mar 20, 2015 16:43:35   #
Eurolux Loc: NYC
 
Capture48 wrote:
I'm going to disagree with using it's own system. Also do you plan on doing any in home or in studio printing? If so you need a calibration unit that can calibrate a monitor, and a printer. These get to be a little more expensive, but for printing in home, they are needed.

Most calibrating systems, certainly the two you mention can handle many many monitor brands. If you get one that does both monitors and printers, they can run $150 more than just the monitor calibrators.


Thank you. Didn't know some can also calibrate a printer. I do have a decent Canon printer but won't be doing lots of printing. Still good to think about. Thanks.

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Mar 20, 2015 16:44:38   #
Eurolux Loc: NYC
 
dsmeltz wrote:
Don't know much about Spectraview II, but it claims to be useable with non-NEC monitors as well. If they are throwing it in for free with your monitor, I would go with it.


The ad said "Free, except for weekends and weekdays!" I wish....

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Mar 20, 2015 16:58:44   #
BebuLamar
 
The Spectraview II does hardware calibration rather than software calibration and it's better. I makes adjustment to the monitor and not the color profile. You do have to buy one of the probe either NEC owned probe or either the ColorMunki or Spyder4 would work. Since it has to make adjustment to the monitor it only works with NEC monitors. However, since you will have to get the probe and if you use another brand monitor you can use the software that came with the probe.

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Mar 20, 2015 17:39:06   #
Eurolux Loc: NYC
 
BebuLamar wrote:
The Spectraview II does hardware calibration rather than software calibration and it's better. I makes adjustment to the monitor and not the color profile. You do have to buy one of the probe either NEC owned probe or either the ColorMunki or Spyder4 would work. Since it has to make adjustment to the monitor it only works with NEC monitors. However, since you will have to get the probe and if you use another brand monitor you can use the software that came with the probe.


Wow! Thank you. Great info! May I ask.....if it were your decision, which system would you invest into? Assume the NEC monitor will be used almost exclusively for the next two years. Thank you

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Mar 20, 2015 19:35:29   #
BebuLamar
 
I would use the Spectraview II and buy may be the Ione Pro sensor. The ColorMunki is good but some version of it isn't compatible with Spectraview. The Spyder4 works with your model of monitor but doesn't work well with some other model of monitors from NEC. I am currently using the old Spyder2 with 2 old NEC LCD2190UXp monitors.

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Mar 20, 2015 20:24:38   #
Eurolux Loc: NYC
 
BebuLamar wrote:
I would use the Spectraview II and buy may be the Ione Pro sensor. The ColorMunki is good but some version of it isn't compatible with Spectraview. The Spyder4 works with your model of monitor but doesn't work well with some other model of monitors from NEC. I am currently using the old Spyder2 with 2 old NEC LCD2190UXp monitors.


Thanks for your advice. If you need an architectural question answered I'm your man!

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Mar 21, 2015 05:26:40   #
infocus Loc: Australia
 
Dngallagher wrote:
I have read good things about Colormunki, also I would not go with a system that was mfg dependent, such as the NEC you talk about as if you move away from NEC or purchase a different monitor later you are back to square one with calibration.


If he purchases a new monitor later surely he is back to square one with calibration any way - it's a different monitor. I also agree with you re Coloumunki it does a good job I've been told.

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Mar 21, 2015 11:25:11   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
There are three primary brands of calibration devices:

Color Munki by X-Rite
Spyder by Datacolor
Huey by Pantone

There are others, but those are the names you'll see most often.

All three work fine and come as a "suite" that includes hardware (the sensor) and software. There are various versions of each brand, too... from basic and inexpensive to fancy, pricey suites that can calibrate all sorts of things (TVs, projectors, laptops) and even generate custom paper/ink profiles for printers. Some also offer "live adjustments", constantly measuring ambient light and making tweaks on the fly (might be useful with a laptop, in particular).

I'd suggest you look at the websites and study the interfaces for each of them, to see what seems most intuitive and easiest to use.

I know photo clubs who buy a calibration device to share among themselves and are used on a wide variety of brands and types of monitors. So, you don't have to worry much about using it on several different monitors (more of concern is the monitor intself... just be sure of it's type and ability to be calibrated... sounds as if that NEC is no problem).

IMO, the single most important thing is that any calibration needs to first set the brightness of the monitor. That's usually way too bright for most photographic purposes... resulting in too dark prints. I also see a lot of too dark images online (not to mention oversaturated, weird tints and/or washed out images).

Personally I use a Spyder, but don't think it matters much... just get whichever seems most comfortable and easiest to use. You'll need to re-calibrate every so often (say every 2 or 3 months), as monitors change brightness and color over time and with use.

Oh, and you also can just buy the colorimeter (the sensor), if your monitor has it's own proprietary calibration hardware/so. Do some searches online for recommended sensors and to be sure it's fully compatible with your monitor's firmware.

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