I found this disappointing. Do you agree?
Mar 8, 2012 20:15:56 #
I am going to copy paste a Facebook post from one of the instructors I take lessons with:
We often talk about how megapixels in cameras do not really make any difference in image quality. I also did a blog post discussing how Nikon's D800 at 36 megapixels was unnecessary and a poor decision. Nikon has released a technical guide on the D800 (the camera is not even out yet) giving a lot of suggestions in how to not get blurry pictures with that camera because the megapixels being that high causes lots of problems. The suggestions include, using a tripod, not using a very high aperture, using higher shutter speeds and using live view; all because any movement in or outside the camera can make the pictures blurry the result of the megapixels being so high. This is my point in how the D800 missed the mark. Check out the guide at http://www.nikonusa.com/en_US/o/Y6wrkA9OU_z04IreazIXl_22UII/PDF/D800_TechnicalGuide_En.pdf
We often talk about how megapixels in cameras do not really make any difference in image quality. I also did a blog post discussing how Nikon's D800 at 36 megapixels was unnecessary and a poor decision. Nikon has released a technical guide on the D800 (the camera is not even out yet) giving a lot of suggestions in how to not get blurry pictures with that camera because the megapixels being that high causes lots of problems. The suggestions include, using a tripod, not using a very high aperture, using higher shutter speeds and using live view; all because any movement in or outside the camera can make the pictures blurry the result of the megapixels being so high. This is my point in how the D800 missed the mark. Check out the guide at http://www.nikonusa.com/en_US/o/Y6wrkA9OU_z04IreazIXl_22UII/PDF/D800_TechnicalGuide_En.pdf
Mar 8, 2012 20:27:06 #
Mar 8, 2012 20:32:18 #
MT Shooter wrote:
Obviously another Canon shooter.
Actually quite the opposite! This instructor is a die hard Nikon shooter. Hates all things Canon. That is why I was so taken aback. I had been thinking about getting a d800 but now I'm not so sure
Mar 8, 2012 20:32:30 #
I think that the questions are still not answered, and won't be until production models of both the D4 and D800 are in photographers' hands.
I wanted a new Nikon that would have better high ISO response and more megapixels. It looks like they put all of the ISO response into the D4 and all of the megapixels into the D800. I may buy a D800, but am really anxious to see the next release. If (as some rumors would have it), it is a D400 with a blend of both, that is the camera I want.
At the moment, if I didn't already have more Nikon glass than I want to admit to my wife, I would buy the Canon 5D MkIII over either of the newly announced Nikons.
I wanted a new Nikon that would have better high ISO response and more megapixels. It looks like they put all of the ISO response into the D4 and all of the megapixels into the D800. I may buy a D800, but am really anxious to see the next release. If (as some rumors would have it), it is a D400 with a blend of both, that is the camera I want.
At the moment, if I didn't already have more Nikon glass than I want to admit to my wife, I would buy the Canon 5D MkIII over either of the newly announced Nikons.
Mar 8, 2012 20:37:17 #
Nikon13 wrote:
Actually quite the opposite! This instructor is a die hard Nikon shooter. Hates all things Canon. That is why I was so taken aback. I had been thinking about getting a d800 but now I'm not so sure
MT Shooter wrote:
Obviously another Canon shooter.
Actually quite the opposite! This instructor is a die hard Nikon shooter. Hates all things Canon. That is why I was so taken aback. I had been thinking about getting a d800 but now I'm not so sure
I was saying that as a joke.
Its a simple fact that 36MP will take a steadier hand and more experience to shoot than 12MP. Same as trying to handhold a 600mm F4 lens compared to a 70-300 F4-5.6. They are different beasts and will require lot different techniques. I want a D800 myself, but will wait 6 months to a year before I invest just to make sure the bugs are worked out, or not there to begin with. Did the same with the D7000 and don't regret the decision in the least.
Plus, the D800 (or any camera for that matter), does not FORCE you to shoot at maximum resolution. Choose 24MP (Still higher than the 5DM3) or 12MP (D700) modes and shoot wonderful shots there, the 36MP will be there for those times when you really need it!
Mar 8, 2012 20:44:21 #
Mar 8, 2012 20:47:34 #
MT Shooter wrote:
quote=Nikon13 quote=MT Shooter Obviously another... (show quote)
Yeah, that makes sense
Mar 8, 2012 20:56:02 #
Interesting topic, Lisa. I see nothing unusual in Nikon's recommendations for maximum sharpness in taking photos with the D800. The only thing I saw that pertains exclusively to the D800 is that, because of high pixel count (rendering greater sharpness) there will be a more noticeable difference between "sharp" and "blurry". I would hope so, given the price of the camera!
If a certain camera is not capable of taking a sharp photo, the difference between "blurry" and "real blurry" may not be too great.
Using optimum aperture ( neither too large nor too small) has always been to good idea. Same for using a tripod.
I couldn't say one way or the other if your instructor is reacting wrongly to the information he read, but I saw nothing that speaks poorly of the Nikon D800.
I'm glad you posted this, Lisa...it gives us something to investigate and uncover our own answers! Thanks!
If a certain camera is not capable of taking a sharp photo, the difference between "blurry" and "real blurry" may not be too great.
Using optimum aperture ( neither too large nor too small) has always been to good idea. Same for using a tripod.
I couldn't say one way or the other if your instructor is reacting wrongly to the information he read, but I saw nothing that speaks poorly of the Nikon D800.
I'm glad you posted this, Lisa...it gives us something to investigate and uncover our own answers! Thanks!
Mar 8, 2012 21:07:35 #
Danilo wrote:
Interesting topic, Lisa. I see nothing unusual in ... (show quote)
Yep, the hegdehoggers do a good job of fleshing things out. I am too new to digital photographer to form an educated opinion but I have been looking closely at the d800. Mostly because it is a full frame camera ( I believe). My plan is to master my entry level d3000 before I move on. By then, the d800 will be a relic. You make a good point about the recommendations in the manual. They are universal.
Mar 8, 2012 21:35:34 #
I didn't see much that isn't good advise for any camera. I noticed (but didn't read) the section on the D800E and preventing moire, which would be camera specific. The D800E is the version without the anti-aliasing filter, so moire interference would be more prevalent.
Mar 8, 2012 21:39:28 #
snowbear wrote:
I didn't see much that isn't good advise for any camera. I noticed (but didn't read) the section on the D800E and preventing moire, which would be camera specific. The D800E is the version without the anti-aliasing filter, so moire interference would be more prevalent.
I'm gonna look up moire and anti-aliasing filter. I'm not familiar with these
Mar 8, 2012 21:50:21 #
Moire is the "banding" you can get on images of (or including) very close patterns, such as found on certain fabrics.
This explains it better:
http://mansurovs.com/nikon-d800-vs-d800e
This explains it better:
http://mansurovs.com/nikon-d800-vs-d800e
Mar 8, 2012 21:59:42 #
snowbear wrote:
Moire is the "banding" you can get on images of (or including) very close patterns, such as found on certain fabrics.
This explains it better:
http://mansurovs.com/nikon-d800-vs-d800e
This explains it better:
http://mansurovs.com/nikon-d800-vs-d800e
That was good info. Based on that I would get the d800e. I have not had a real problem with this banding and the things I typically shoot do lend themselves to it. I am learning so much!
Mar 9, 2012 05:38:33 #
The D800 is a fabulous camera ( so far on paper only). The specs are impressive and many of us are salivating and drooling all over the specs.
Future will confirm whether that many pixels were a great idea or just a marketing ploy.
As the D800 and the 5D Mark III will be butting heads, it will be interesting to compare the two as far as details and clarity as well as low light behavior and noise at 25,000 ISO and above.
Future will confirm whether that many pixels were a great idea or just a marketing ploy.
As the D800 and the 5D Mark III will be butting heads, it will be interesting to compare the two as far as details and clarity as well as low light behavior and noise at 25,000 ISO and above.
Mar 9, 2012 06:13:49 #
effrant
Loc: New Hampshire
To each his own. I'm sure the D800 will be fabulous, and I would still take a D3X or D3S over anything Canon makes to present.....
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