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Mar 16, 2015 10:18:31   #
texaseve Loc: TX, NC and NH
 
Shellback wrote:
You can do this in LR & Win 8.1.

Right click on the photo-
Select "open with"
Select "Choose Default Program"
scroll down to bottom and select "More Options"
scroll down to bottom and select "Look for another app on this PC"

This will take you into the programs directory
select the Adobe folder
select the Lightromm 5.7 folder



click on "lightroom.exe"

now when you either left click on the photo or right click and select open it will open LR - import all of the photos in that folder into LR - Import module - and have the photo you clicked on as the only one checked so you can import it.

I have this set up on my 8.1 system -
open= LR
edit = Elements

if I want to view, I have to right click and open with - select "preview"

Hope this helps...
You can do this in LR & Win 8.1. br br Right ... (show quote)


Some real instructions! I know this works... have done this before, just could not remember what I did (a couple years ago) on my PC. I am working on Mac most of the time now.

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Mar 16, 2015 10:28:30   #
Shellback Loc: North of Cheyenne Bottoms Wetlands - Kansas
 
Indi wrote:
???? I'm not understanding this. If the default program to "open" with is chosen, isn't that the same as the default program to "edit" in? If LR 5 opens the image, you'll be able to edit it immediately...right?
PS. I am NOT trying to start an argument even though it might sound like it. Just need clarification. :)


No problem -
some program offer the same function when using - either viewing or editing while others use different programs.

one scenario -
"open" will pull up a photo in windows photo viewer while "edit" would pull it up in paint.

and to change the "edit" function - you hack the registry
while changing the "open" function is much easier as you assign the default program via selection options.

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Mar 16, 2015 10:29:57   #
Shellback Loc: North of Cheyenne Bottoms Wetlands - Kansas
 
Dngallagher wrote:
I do hope everyone here sees that what they are doing is IMPORTING a single image into Lightroom, EXACTLY what the original answer was to use LIGHTROOM to edit an image - IMPORT it first... You can sugar coat it any way you like, but the truth is for Lightroom, "open with" equates to IMPORTING an image into the catalog before it is edited.

Sorry, call it what you will, but what it is is simply Lightroom REQUIRES the image in it's catalog prior to any editing. This is not something new, nope, always been this way :)
I do hope everyone here sees that what they are do... (show quote)

no arguments here - just showing how to set the system up to pull it into the import module with one click...

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Mar 16, 2015 10:32:19   #
lloydl2 Loc: Gilbert, AZ
 
DEJ - what is your purpose for using LR if you are not making use of the catalog (one of its primo features), and if you are saving your photos back to a photo gallery thereby making the edits you've made permanent and losing the ability to be able to go back and non destructively re edit or even go back to the original image, a different crop, etc.? Why even use lightroom? I can't tell you how many times I've gone back to many of my photos in lightroom to re edit and get a different effect. Doing this while preserving the original photo as lightroom makes all changes non destructively and the ability to catalog and find my images and all the changes (change history) in a single place. People here are trying to help. Are you open to using Lightroom the way it was intended and being a beneficiary of the true benefits that Lightroom provides? If not, maybe there is a different tool that would work better for your work flow!

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Mar 16, 2015 10:33:49   #
Indi Loc: L. I., NY, Palm Beach Cty when it's cold.
 
Shellback wrote:
no arguments here - just showing how to set the system up to pull it into the import module with one click...


OK...still friends? :lol:

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Mar 16, 2015 10:40:17   #
Yooper 2 Loc: Ironwood, MI
 
Dngallagher wrote:
I do hope everyone here sees that what they are doing is IMPORTING a single image into Lightroom, EXACTLY what the original answer was to use LIGHTROOM to edit an image - IMPORT it first... You can sugar coat it any way you like, but the truth is for Lightroom, "open with" equates to IMPORTING an image into the catalog before it is edited.

Sorry, call it what you will, but what it is is simply Lightroom REQUIRES the image in it's catalog prior to any editing. This is not something new, nope, always been this way :)
I do hope everyone here sees that what they are do... (show quote)


He doesn't have the images in his Pictures or anywhere else on the computer. He wants to import them directly from his card or camera to Lightroom. I do it all the time. The photos will go directly to Lightroom from the drop down box on the screen. You don't have to open the drop down box. It appears when you insert the camera card or plug your camera into the computer. You then choose where you want ALL the photos to go. My choices are Dropbox, Elements 13, Lightroom, Photoshop, and Windows Photos (MY Pictures). The other method is to open Lightroom and Import directly from the card or camera. You can't use Open With unless the photos are already on the computer.

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Mar 16, 2015 10:43:37   #
REJ Loc: Ontario Canada
 
Gene51 wrote:
You have been using it incorrectly. If all you want to do is use the Develop Module, then you can do what you want with PHotoshop and Adobe ACR.

If you insist on using LR and bypassing the import process, then you are missing out on the most powerful part of LR, and the most compelling reason to use it - the catalog.

With other software you can right click on the image, the flyout menu will offer Open With, which when you click it, will show you a list of software associated with the file extension. The problem is that LR will not be there because it is not intended to be used that way. You go to the bottom of the list, where you can choose default program to open this with - and there you can click to add LR, but it will not result in a selection. LR doesn't work this way.

Your best bet is to set up a watched folder using File->Auto Import for quickly adding images that you don't necessarily want to add to a catalog. Add your files there, then open LR and sync that folder. This is like setting up a Temporary folder. I use this when I set up a Photobooth, to create a slide show on the fly using the images that are taken as people visit the booth.

You remind me of the guy who bought a sea kayak, loved how it handled surf and rough water on the open sea, but returned it because it was awful (much too long) to be used in white water.
You have been using it incorrectly. If all you wan... (show quote)


Of all the replies I received on my initial question, Shellback was the only one who looked at the the question, not only did Shellback answer the question, a list of steps was provided to get to that answer. In my world that is how a question should be answered.

Your reply however seems to point out that I don't meet your standards. Should I care?

The guy I remind you of. If his main interest is white water what is wrong with him returning the sea kayak.

With your picture and your list of worldly thoughts and your list of equipment you remind me of a politician who honestly believes that his way is the best way to control the angry masses. Maybe, but I would not vote for you. Thanks for your reply. REJ

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Mar 16, 2015 10:51:29   #
Shellback Loc: North of Cheyenne Bottoms Wetlands - Kansas
 
Indi wrote:
OK...still friends? :lol:


Of course...
And here's a lil' Irish toast for ya :lol:

Here's to you and here's to me
I pray that friends we'll always be,
But if by chance we disagree,
The heck with you and here's to me!

And have a wonderful St Patty's Day :mrgreen:

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Mar 16, 2015 10:53:41   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
BooIsMyCat wrote:
Not comparing apples/apples here but, Open With works very nicely under Windows 7.

I did the following:

Opened my Explorer to display a list of .cr2 images on my SD card.
Right clicked on one and then clicked on Open With
Clicked on the last option - Choose Default Program

Lightroom was NOT listed in the popup that opened so I clicked on Browse
I located LR5, clicked once on it and then clicked on Open. This put LR5 in a popup labeled Open With. I removed the check from the box - Always use the selected program to open this kind of file and clicked on OK.

LR5 opened (in Import mode) and went right to my SD card where the file was stored that I selected above.

Now, when I right click an image file (.cr2) and Open With, LR5 is one of my options.
Not comparing apples/apples here but, Open With wo... (show quote)


Interesting. On both my Win7 and Win8, even though I can browse to select LR 5 to open a file, pressing enter does nothing - it does not add it as a default or otherwise - I cannot actually enable right click to open in LR.

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Mar 16, 2015 10:55:00   #
Dngallagher Loc: Wilmington De.
 
Yooper 2 wrote:
He doesn't have the images in his Pictures or anywhere else on the computer. He wants to import them directly from his card or camera to Lightroom. I do it all the time. The photos will go directly to Lightroom from the drop down box on the screen. You don't have to open the drop down box. It appears when you insert the camera card or plug your camera into the computer. You then choose where you want ALL the photos to go. My choices are Dropbox, Elements 13, Lightroom, Photoshop, and Windows Photos (MY Pictures). The other method is to open Lightroom and Import directly from the card or camera. You can't use Open With unless the photos are already on the computer.
He doesn't have the images in his Pictures or anyw... (show quote)



Sorry, but that is not what the original question was....He asked to EDIT IN Lightroom... and balked at IMPORTING....not once was a direct import from camera or card even mentioned.

I see the problem with long threads is that people revise what was asked and begin going down new roads to answer unasked questions

Original post & question....

REJ wrote:
Hi All
I had to get a new computer and windows 8.1 came with it, so be it. My question is, when you right click a photo the drop down menu reads open in or edit in. How do I get Lightroom 5.7 on that menu. I had no trouble with Elements 13 there was an app right there for it. The method used in Windows 7 no longer works. Thanks in advance. REJ.
PS I went to the app store but could find nothing about Lightroom 5.7.


Now, all that being said, the answer is simple - LIGHTROOM requires photos be IMPORTED before they can be edited. There are a couple ways to IMPORT, but they all IMPORT. Refusing to acknowledge the facts do not alter them.

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Mar 16, 2015 11:00:46   #
BooIsMyCat Loc: Somewhere
 
Indi wrote:
???? I'm not understanding this. If the default program to "open" with is chosen, isn't that the same as the default program to "edit" in? If LR 5 opens the image, you'll be able to edit it immediately...right?
PS. I am NOT trying to start an argument even though it might sound like it. Just need clarification. :)


Not really.
IF you open LR normally, it will display images that have been imported and allow you to edit them.
IF you click on an image and OPEN WITH "LR" then LR will open to the IMPORT function, allowing you to import and THEN edit.

As far as I know, you cannot edit an image in LR unless it has been imported first.

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Mar 16, 2015 11:02:19   #
Dngallagher Loc: Wilmington De.
 
BooIsMyCat wrote:
Not really.
IF you open LR normally, it will display images that have been imported and allow you to edit them.
IF you click on an image and OPEN WITH "LR" then LR will open to the IMPORT function, allowing you to import and THEN edit.

As far as I know, you cannot edit an image in LR unless it has been imported first.


:thumbup:

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Mar 16, 2015 11:08:07   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
REJ wrote:
Of all the replies I received on my initial question, Shellback was the only one who looked at the the question, not only did Shellback answer the question, a list of steps was provided to get to that answer. In my world that is how a question should be answered.

Your reply however seems to point out that I don't meet your standards. Should I care?

The guy I remind you of. If his main interest is white water what is wrong with him returning the sea kayak.

With your picture and your list of worldly thoughts and your list of equipment you remind me of a politician who honestly believes that his way is the best way to control the angry masses. Maybe, but I would not vote for you. Thanks for your reply. REJ
Of all the replies I received on my initial questi... (show quote)


Not my standards, I didn't write the software. It's your choice to use the software the way you like, even if you use it in ways it was not intended to be used. Not my problem, not my concern. But don't complain that it doesn't work the way YOU want to use it, if you aren't using it correctly - according to Adobe's standards. Just like the guy with the kayak - he wanted one type of kayak, but wanted to be able to do something different than what it was intended for - his choice, his problem.

I am far from being always right. That would be downright narcissistic of me, wouldn't it? But just because you could, in a pinch, use a hammer to drive a nail into a piece of wood, it doesn't mean that it's the right tool and that you are using it successfully. My suggestion to learn LR and how to do things within it as they were intended will eliminate your current and possibly future difficulties with the software. Consider it a suggestion, like I would suggest to the guy with the screw and the hammer, that a screwdriver might be more efficient since the screw has threads and are designed to hold things together when the screw is turned - which is the point. It is not the point to get the screw into the wood - if it were, then the hammer is as good as a shoe or a rock. OR, as an alternate, maybe consider using a nail or a spike, for which the hammer is ideally suited for. It is not as good as a screw for fastening two pieces of wood together, but it will do.

The guy with the kayak - he ended up seeing the benefit of having the right tool for the job, and bought two kayaks. Funny how things work out sometimes.

I could care less what you do with your software - not my problem. I use LR just fine with no issues.

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Mar 16, 2015 11:08:29   #
BooIsMyCat Loc: Somewhere
 
Dngallagher wrote:
Now, all that being said, the answer is simple - LIGHTROOM requires photos be IMPORTED before they can be edited. There are a couple ways to IMPORT, but they all IMPORT. Refusing to acknowledge the facts do not alter them.


NO... reread the statement - "the drop down menu reads open in or edit in".

That clearly says "open" OR "edit".

My interpretation of the OP's question was simply how does one go about starting said program when s/he clicked on an image file.

Seems you got stuck on "EDIT" and based your response(s) on that one word.

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Mar 16, 2015 11:09:45   #
fredpnm Loc: Corrales, NM
 
Wow!

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