Rather tame compared to some. Try Catalina Island in a cross wind in a Cessna. It is basically a flat mountain top with a cliff at each end. Come in low you go splat on the cliff face. Go too long or fast you fly off the other end and drop into the ocean from several hundred feet up. The friend I was riding with had learned from a pilot who took his students out there to experience it. Came in at max landing speed, touched down hit brakes, if you were X MPH at marker Y you fire walled the engine and got the hell back into the air. We caught an updraft as we came over the end of the runway and hit long, got the hell out of there. Didn't bother the pilot who had done it before, didn't bother me, was tame compared some flights I had been on in Nam. But the two guys in the back seat looked like Casper, so we called off the Buffalo Burger lunch at the airport cafe and returned to LA for Micky D.
And they're keeping its location secret so we can't avoid it?
jerryc41 wrote:
And they're keeping its location secret so we can't avoid it?
Jerry here is some information from Wikipedia: Tenzing-Hillary Airport also known as Lukla Airport, is a small airport in the town of Lukla, in Khumbu, Solukhumbu district, Sagarmatha zone, eastern Nepal. A program titled Most Extreme Airports, broadcast on The History Channel in 2010, rated the airport as the most dangerous airport in the world.
In January 2008 the airport was renamed in honor of Sir Edmund Hillary and Sherpa Tenzing Norgay, the first people to reach the summit of Mount Everest and also to mark their efforts in the construction of this airport.
The airport is popular because Lukla is the place where most people start the climb to Mount Everest Base Camp. There are daily flights between Lukla and Kathmandu during daylight hours in good weather. Although the flying distance is short, rain commonly occurs in Lukla while the sun is shining brightly in Kathmandu. High winds, cloud cover, and changing visibility often mean flights can be delayed or the airport closed. The airport is contained within a chain link fence and patrolled by the Nepali armed police or civil police around the clock. The airport's paved asphalt runway is accessible only to helicopters and small, fixed-wing, short-takeoff-and-landing aircraft such as the De Havilland Canada DHC-6 Twin Otter, Dornier Do 228 and Pilatus PC-6 Turbo Porter. The runway is 527 m (1,729 ft) × 30 m (98 ft) with a 11.7% gradient. The airport's elevation is 9,334 ft (2,845 m).
Aircraft can use runway 06 only for landings and runway 24 only for takeoffs. There is no prospect of a successful go-around on short final due to the terrain. There is high terrain immediately beyond the northern end of the runway and a steeply angled drop of 9200 ft. at the southern end of the runway into the valley below.
The apron has four stands and there is one helipad located 140 m (460 ft) from the control tower. No landing aids are available and the only air traffic service is an Aerodrome Flight. 8-)
nascar27 wrote:
Jerry here is some information from Wikipedia: Tenzing-Hillary Airport also known as Lukla Airport,
I've seen that on other lists of bad airports.
And the Catalina Island Strip is not level... Another challenge👀
But it's 3,000 ft. long and 60 ft. wide. Even with a cross-wind that shouldn't be a problem for a single engine Cessna.
Built for a DC 3 the Wrigley Family Bird back in the day. I first flew my Dad's Mooney to Catalina Island without a license in 1963 thinking my Dad would never find out. Less fuel, redish dirt on the floor and a sunburn on both my babe and me and he had me made. Punishment was to wash and wax and detail the interior... Twice!
Pilot wrote:
But it's 3,000 ft. long and 60 ft. wide. Even with a cross-wind that shouldn't be a problem for a single engine Cessna.
Now that would depend on the wind, wouldn't it?
We get the "Santa Ana" winds coming from the high deserts down the passes and across the coastal area and out to the southern channel islands. They sometimes gust up to hurricane or near hurricane levels 30-40 mph are common.
Not necessarily. Of course I think hurricane strength cross-winds would certainly be too much for any airplane, 30 to 40 kt. winds are doable in a single engine Cessna. 30 kts. was never a problem in a Cessna 150 on a 2,000 ft. runway. You need a longer runway to get stopped on when the cross-winds are higher. And believe me, cross-wind landings are much easier if you leave the flaps up.
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