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Mar 8, 2012 05:39:01   #
MARLON
 
How does the camera know which setting I want..
Is it reading from my settings in manuel mode, appeture, etc...
most of the shot is from moving subjects..so i have to put the camera on no flash... and what setting should i really be using to get a sharp picture.. in low light.. I know to set my iso to 400 or 800.... so what f-stop should i use, and what speed should i use 1/60, 125, 250.. i quest i'm asking where to set these setting so when i put the camera (Canon) on no flash.

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Mar 8, 2012 06:20:57   #
jim1945 Loc: louisville,ky.
 
run a test; F-16 @ 125 using 800 ISO...use as starter setting.bracket by opening F-stop..this should get you into the ball park.if you have to drop shutter speed,you must use a tripod under 60...hope this helps...jim1945

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Mar 8, 2012 06:27:14   #
jim1945 Loc: louisville,ky.
 
p.s ...if using film,w/o flash,inside,you need to use indoor film.

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Mar 8, 2012 06:29:54   #
MARLON
 
ok thanksm but where to put my settinf in m-the manuel mode. etc because the is no where to set it in the no flash option

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Mar 8, 2012 06:45:52   #
barbkelly Loc: Delaware
 
Marlon, I think we need more information, such as what camera and lens will you be using.

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Mar 8, 2012 07:06:58   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
Here is the deal.

This goes whether you are shooting in low light or plenty of light.

If your aim is to freeze subjects and you don't want to use flash you have to get a shutter speed of 1/125 or better.

So set your camera to manual.

Set the shutter speed to 1/125.

Open up your aperture as wide (low number) as it will go.


Now, keep raising the ISO until a correct exposure is indicated.

What is the ISO? Is it reasonable like 1600 or less?

If you can't get a reasonable ISO out of it, then you can't do what you want to do with the equipment you have in this particular lighting conditions.



Your next avenue is to get a faster lens and start the process all over again.

What lens will you be using?


PS: if you don't understand the exposure triangle and how and why to use different shutter speeds or apertures to get different effects then that's your starting point.

Buy "Understanding Exposure" by Bryan Peterson.

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Mar 8, 2012 07:14:31   #
Fotomann Loc: Toronto, Ontario Canada
 
Check this youtube clip.

"Understanding Exposure" by Bryan Peterson

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8NEa-ghHbo

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Mar 8, 2012 07:38:22   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
Fotomann wrote:
Check this youtube clip.

"Understanding Exposure" by Bryan Peterson

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8NEa-ghHbo


Thanks for posting that...if everyone would watch this clip and buy the book there would be a LOT less people wondering how to set their camera's in a given situation here on the hog. :)

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Mar 8, 2012 07:56:02   #
MARLON
 
i will be using F1.4 lens 50mm, & 18 - 250 lens sigma

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Mar 8, 2012 08:10:50   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
MARLON wrote:
i will be using F1.4 lens 50mm, & 18 - 250 lens sigma


Ok..thanks.

The 50mm is a pretty fast lens...you can get some good low light shots with it.

I'm assuming that the 18-250 is about a 3.5-5.6 lens or so?

That's not going to be much help.


If I could, I'd make do with the 50mm and move around to frame the shots I needed to get.


So go back to my post...turn the lights down in your house a bit and practice what I suggested....f/2 or f/2.8 or even f/1.8 if you have to...then set the SS to 1/125 and see what your exposure comes out to be at ISO 400.

If it's under....go to ISO 600....if it's still under keep going ISO 800 or even 1600.

NOTE: if you see to much movement/smearing at 1/125..then go to 1/250. BUT KEEP IN MIND that you MUST now do one of two things to compensate: open up the aperture one stop OR raise the ISO one stop.

It's a "triangle" in balance....what you do to one, you have to compensate for in another.


Basically that's it. If you can make it happen with a 1.8 lens...it aint gonna happen.

PS: I hate to even bring this up because people are going to think that I"m a broken record but I'd get an inexpensive hand held light meter...you can get one used at KEH for 100.00.

That will go a long way to easing your mind, and showing you what settings will work in the light available.

Everyone should own one and use one in my opinion...It eases the anxiety level A LOT in all kinds of situations like this.

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Mar 8, 2012 08:45:09   #
MARLON
 
Thankyou,
i can't alway's get close so I have to use 18 - 250 lens
aswell as the f1.4.. I love the f1.4 lens good quality... not enough distance, though

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Mar 8, 2012 08:48:39   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
MARLON wrote:
Thankyou,
i can't alway's get close so I have to use 18 - 250 lens
aswell as the f1.4.. I love the f1.4 lens good quality... not enough distance, though


If you have to use the 18-250 you are going to have problems.

The aperture is 2 1/3 stops slower than the 50mm and so your shutter speed will have to drop or your ISO will have to go up to stops...
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Not a good situation.

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Mar 9, 2012 06:54:23   #
sygilligan Loc: Lititz, Pa
 
Thank you for posting the video links, great stuff.

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Mar 9, 2012 07:57:54   #
Roger Bruner Loc: Richmond, VA
 
Great video! Thanks!

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Mar 9, 2012 08:09:02   #
MARLON
 
What is a good lens to shoot with in low light with distance.. like 150 feet ( canon)

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