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Mar 4, 2015 08:25:46   #
CanonShot Loc: Lancaster County, PA
 
In 2013 I took an 9-day late August trip with several trekking friends to Zion, Bryce Canyon, and the North Rim. Seven of those nights were tent camping experiences which allowed some great opportunities to photograph sunsets, Milky Way, and sunrises. Camera equipment I used were Canon...5D3, 24-105 f/4, and 70-200 f/2.8.

This year our crew plans to be in the Tetons and Yellowstone at roughly the same time. I plan to replace the 24-105 f/4 with a 16-35 f/2.8. A 7D2 will join the 5D3.

My question for those who have done the Tetons and Yellowstone: Given the wildlife we will likely encounter, would you take the 70-200 f/2.8 or the 400 f/5.6? Taking both of these lenses is not an option.

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Mar 4, 2015 08:33:18   #
big-guy Loc: Peterborough Ontario Canada
 
Tough choices but I think I'd opt for the 70-200 just for the range it affords in all situations. Of course what ever you choose, once there you will undoubtedly run into several situations where the other lens would be preferred.

Your choice of the wide angle is a good thing especially for the star shots at night. Have fun, we all look forward to seeing some of the shots on your return. :D

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Mar 4, 2015 08:38:48   #
Lorendn Loc: Jackson, WY
 
You will almost certainly want the 400 for birds and other wildlife. I love my 70-200 but rarely use it when I have all of my gear along. I agree it is a great intermediate lends on a 7D but I think you will want the longer reach when you come out here. Be sure to look us up at: TetonPhotographyGroup.org.

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Mar 4, 2015 08:41:23   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
CanonShot wrote:
In 2013 I took an 9-day late August trip with several trekking friends to Zion, Bryce Canyon, and the North Rim. Seven of those nights were tent camping experiences which allowed some great opportunities to photograph sunsets, Milky Way, and sunrises. Camera equipment I used were Canon...5D3, 24-105 f/4, and 70-200 f/2.8.

This year our crew plans to be in the Tetons and Yellowstone at roughly the same time. I plan to replace the 24-105 f/4 with a 16-35 f/2.8. A 7D2 will join the 5D3.

My question for those who have done the Tetons and Yellowstone: Given the wildlife we will likely encounter, would you take the 70-200 f/2.8 or the 400 f/5.6? Taking both of these lenses is not an option.
In 2013 I took an 9-day late August trip with seve... (show quote)


Teton is mostly about the scenery. Yellowstone is mostly about the wildlife. You will want the longest lens you can get your hands on for the wildlife in Yellowstone.

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Mar 4, 2015 08:47:21   #
Lorendn Loc: Jackson, WY
 
MT Shooter wrote:
Teton is mostly about the scenery. Yellowstone is mostly about the wildlife. You will want the longest lens you can get your hands on for the wildlife in Yellowstone.

MT - come on that's pretty general. We have far more wildlife down here in the winter - at least that you can get to easily. This week there are over 8,000 elk on the refuge, about 60 bighorns, 50 pronghorn, more than 60 Trumpeters and a dozen bald eagles - an that is just in one mile on the refuge road! Both are great in all seasons and I love living here.

Loren

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Mar 4, 2015 08:49:32   #
Haydon
 
CanonShot wrote:
In 2013 I took an 9-day late August trip with several trekking friends to Zion, Bryce Canyon, and the North Rim. Seven of those nights were tent camping experiences which allowed some great opportunities to photograph sunsets, Milky Way, and sunrises. Camera equipment I used were Canon...5D3, 24-105 f/4, and 70-200 f/2.8.

This year our crew plans to be in the Tetons and Yellowstone at roughly the same time. I plan to replace the 24-105 f/4 with a 16-35 f/2.8. A 7D2 will join the 5D3.

My question for those who have done the Tetons and Yellowstone: Given the wildlife we will likely encounter, would you take the 70-200 f/2.8 or the 400 f/5.6? Taking both of these lenses is not an option.
In 2013 I took an 9-day late August trip with seve... (show quote)


The 70-200 2.8L with a teleconverter.

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Mar 4, 2015 08:49:42   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
Lorendn wrote:
MT - come on that's pretty general. We have far more wildlife down here in the winter - at least that you can get to easily. This week there are over 8,000 elk on the refuge, about 60 bighorns, 50 pronghorn, more than 60 Trumpeters and a dozen bald eagles - an that is just in one mile on the refuge road! Both are great in all seasons and I love living here.

Loren


This may be true Loren, but the OP's trip will be in August. Yes it was a generalization as the scenery in Yellowstone is spectacular, that's why I quantified both as "mostly".

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Mar 4, 2015 10:02:21   #
zuzanne Loc: Crawfordville, FL
 
We were there in December. I really regretted not having my Sigma 150-500 with me. The scenery in both parks is amazing but for wildlife you will want the longest lens you have. I took my ultra wide for scenery shots and my 70 to 300 for wildlife and it just was not enough reach. Enjoy your trip.

zuzanne

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Mar 5, 2015 07:07:16   #
yaterman96 Loc: Southern North Carolina
 
Use the 7d with the 1.4 TC that will get you the reach around 450 mm. Very little loss of IQ with the 1.4. The 2x TC works well also for large animals but will lose some IQ if trying to get detail on birds more than 20 yds out. Just have good light when using the 2x an stop down to f10 or 11. The 70-200 2.8 ll is a great lens for working with TCs. I have sold
a number of images using that combo.

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Mar 5, 2015 09:13:19   #
twowindsbear
 
Leave something else at home - TAKE YOUR LENSES! Maybe leave the super-wide zoom at home if you MUST choose a lens to leave.

How about sharing & swapping lenses with other members of your group?

Have a GREAT trip!!

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Mar 5, 2015 09:21:53   #
Robin Poole Loc: Missoula, Mt
 
CanonShot wrote:
In 2013 I took an 9-day late August trip with several trekking friends to Zion, Bryce Canyon, and the North Rim. Seven of those nights were tent camping experiences which allowed some great opportunities to photograph sunsets, Milky Way, and sunrises. Camera equipment I used were Canon...5D3, 24-105 f/4, and 70-200 f/2.8.

This year our crew plans to be in the Tetons and Yellowstone at roughly the same time. I plan to replace the 24-105 f/4 with a 16-35 f/2.8. A 7D2 will join the 5D3.

My question for those who have done the Tetons and Yellowstone: Given the wildlife we will likely encounter, would you take the 70-200 f/2.8 or the 400 f/5.6? Taking both of these lenses is not an option.
In 2013 I took an 9-day late August trip with seve... (show quote)



I'll throw you a curve ball. MT Shooter owns a camera store near the Cooke City entrance. Contact him by private e-mail and see what he suggests and would be willing to rent to you. One of the best wild life areas is the Lamar Valley but the animals generally keep their distance. For WL you will want as big a lens as possible. I use the Sigma 300-800mm. Started out using their 120-300 with 1.4 & 2X TCs I do YNP in all the seasons several times in Winter & Fall. Scenery in YNP is beautiful, in the Tetons it's Spectacular!!! Check out my website. I've got lots and lots of pics from both areas. While out here you should head up to Glacier, it's only 8-9 hours from YNPStay in the area as long as possible. You'll b e amazed! Robin

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Mar 5, 2015 10:08:37   #
CanonShot Loc: Lancaster County, PA
 
A SPECIAL THANK YOU... to all who have taken the time to respond to my post. I have read and re-read your posts several times and will continue to do so. Advice such as yours is invaluable. If other related thoughts cross your mind, please add them to this post.

Our five-man group, whose youngster is 50 years old, is comprised of 4 Eagle Scouts and all 5 with a combined century plus of BSA leadership. Serious planners we are. Beautiful landscapes and creatures are what we seek but know that Mother Nature is not always kind.

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Mar 5, 2015 10:34:49   #
steve_stoneblossom Loc: Rhode Island, USA
 
TC could be the best of both worlds, particularly with one full frame and one crop sensor camera.

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Mar 5, 2015 10:44:14   #
CanonShot Loc: Lancaster County, PA
 
steve_stoneblossom wrote:
TC could be the best of both worlds, particularly with one full frame and one crop sensor camera.


Steve, could you add any details based on your experience.

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Mar 5, 2015 11:07:39   #
dusty3d Loc: South Florida
 
the 200mm will be good for bison, elk and deer but for the moose, bear and wolves you will need a 400mm. I would carry my 18-200 on my shoulder and keep my other camera with the 400mm mounted to my tripod that is when i was in the car. But when I was on the motorcycle it was the 18-200. Spent three seasons living and working in YNP

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