juicesqueezer Loc: Okeechobee, Florida

Joe Legal works in construction, has a Social Security Number and makes $25.00 per hour with taxes deducted.
Jose Illegal also works in construction, has NO Social Security Number, and gets paid $15.00 cash "under the table".
Ready? Now pay attention....
Joe Legal: $25.00 per hour x 40 hours = $1000.00 per week, or $52,000.00 per year. Now take 30% away for state and federal tax; Joe Legal now has $31,231.00.
Jose Illegal: $15.00 per hour x 40 hours = $600.00 per week, or $31,200.0 0 per year. Jose Illegal pays no taxes. Jose Illegal now has $31,200.00.
Joe Legal pays medical and dental insurance with limited coverage for his family at $600.00 per month, or $7,200.00 per year. Joe Legal now has $24,031.00.
Jose Illegal has full medical and dental coverage through the state and local clinics and emergency hospitals at a cost of $0.00 per year. Jose Illegal still has $31,200.00.
Joe Legal makes too much money and is not eligible for food stamps or welfare. Joe Legal pays $500.00 per month for food, or $6,000.00 per year. Joe Legal now has $18,031.00.
Jose Illegal has no documented income and is eligible for food stamps, WIC and welfare. Jose Illegal still has $31,200.00.
Joe Legal pays rent of $1,200.00 per month, or $14,400.00 per year. Joe Legal now has 9,631 ..00.
Jose Illegal receives a $500.00 per month Federal Rent Subsidy. Jose Illegal pays out that $500.00 per month, or $6,000.00 per year. Jose Illegal still has $ 31,200.00.
Joe Legal pays $200.00 per month, or $2,400.00 for car insurance. Some of that is uninsured motorist insurance. Joe Legal now has $7,231.00.
Jose Illegal says, "We don't need no stinkin' insurance!" and still has $31,200.00.
Joe Legal has to make his $7,231.00 stretch to pay utilities, gasoline, etc..
Jose Illegal has to make his $31,200.00 stretch to pay utilities, gasoline, and what he sends out of the country every month..
Joe Legal now works overtime on Saturdays or gets a part time job after work.
Jose Illegal has nights and weekends off to enjoy with his family.
Joe Legal's and Jose Illegal's children both attend the same elementary school.
Joe Legal pays for his children's lunches, while
Jose Illegal's children get a government sponsored lunch.
Jose Illegal's children have an after school ESL program.
Joe Legal's children go home.
Now, when they reach college age,
Joe Legal's kids may not get into a State School and may not qualify for scholarships, grants or other tuition help, even though Joe has been paying for State Schools through his taxes, while
Jose Illegal's kids "go to the head of the class" because they are a minority.
Joe Legal and Jose Illegal both enjoy the same police and fire services, but Joe paid for them and Jose did not pay.

Do you get it, now?

Los-Angeles-Shooter Loc: Los Angeles

Some people blather about how "immigrants built this country." The blather is dishonest because it ignores a central fact: In earlier times there was a need for immigrants. And there was no way for immigrants to become parasites on the honest citizens. In today's USA, there is a vast infrastructure of handouts to immigrants which enable many immigrants to live comfortably as parasites. Ironically, while encouraging i*****l i*********n we make it almost impossible for those who would benefit the country ... like highly-educated entrepreneurs from Europe ... to settle here.

lightcatcher Loc: Farmington, NM (4 corners)

Sad but true..and that is why they keep coming here.

richosob Loc: Lambertville, MI

I get it, but Mr. Illegal has a lot of friends in Washington. It's a damn shame, and I wish we could do something about it.

Rich

juicesqueezer Loc: Okeechobee, Florida

The immigrants of the past did it right. They came to this country, went through the process, learned English, worked hard, raised their children to respect America, for they remember what it was like from whence they came!

No matter if your a Democrat or Republican, if your can't see the difference, then there is no sense talking to you. You can't be helped and are part of the problem!

skylane5sp Loc: Puyallup, WA

And the silence from the left is...

soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca

Ya'll pretty much know my stance on the matter but going to play devils advocate.
They contribute to the overall economy.......
They buy property and pay property taxes.

skylane5sp Loc: Puyallup, WA

But why do I have to subsidize it? I wouldn't mind a bunch of free s**t for a while... How about we all get just one year's worth?

Los-Angeles-Shooter Loc: Los Angeles

Their net effect is a drain on the economy. Crime, incarceration costs, use of publicly funded emergency rooms, food stamps, welfare, and a vast array of methods of making themselves a burden on the honest citizens.

juicesqueezer Loc: Okeechobee, Florida

You might want to read this sentence again!

Jose Illegal receives a $500.00 per month Federal Rent Subsidy. Jose Illegal pays out that $500.00 per month, or $6,000.00 per year. Jose Illegal still has $ 31,200.00.

soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca

:thumbup:

soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca

But they add to the economy because they buy food cars furniture. Stuff like that right.
By the way my sentiment is the same as yours.
Just playing devils advocate........
Thats the argument u hear pro immigration.
They are poor and just want a better life too.