Flash problem
Mar 3, 2012 10:55:25 #
I have Nikon D700 camera and 2 flash lights: Nikon SB-600 and Bower SFD18 slave flash. I wont to use my Nikon D700 as my commander flash and SB-600 and Bower as slaves. But I have problem when I am setting flash cntrl for built-in flash MANUAL my Bower fires simultaneously with built-in flash but SB-600 does not fire. When I am setting flash cntrl for built-in flash in COMMANDER mode SB-600 and built-in flash are firing simultaneously but Bower is not firing simultaneously. I tried different settings for built-in flash without any success. I will be grateful for any input.
Mar 3, 2012 11:12:20 #
Are the flashs set-up where they can both see to trigger from on camera flash? Try tapeing a small white card near the trigger to catch the bounce of the main light.
Mar 3, 2012 11:57:29 #
Both of them were placed very close to each other and can see the trigger.
14kphotog wrote:
Are the flashs set-up where they can both see to trigger from on camera flash? Try tapeing a small white card near the trigger to catch the bounce of the main light.
Mar 4, 2012 14:55:42 #
MMC wrote:
I have Nikon D700 camera and 2 flash lights: Nikon... (show quote)
In COMMANDER mode, the built-in flash sends imperceptible pre-flash instructions to the SB-600, thus triggering it. These pre-flashes may trigger the Bower slave BEFORE the shutter opens (light won't record in the image). Take a shot of the two flashes and watch the Bower. If you see it flash, but it is not in the image then that's what happened.
In MANUAL control of the built-in flash, no pre-flashing occurs, just the one pop. The Bower slave sees this and flashes. However, the SB-600 needs the pre-flashes to fire. Side note, the SB-800 and SB700 have a mode named SU-4. This makes it see the manual flash and triggers flash. The SB-600 does NOT have this mode.
Possible solutions: 1) Use a radio trigger. Pocket Wizards are the standard, but other brands are available. 2) PC cords. 3) Digital Slave Sensor, but try before buying. They claim to ignore the pre-flashes but I have had good luck with these.
Mar 4, 2012 15:09:28 #
MMC wrote:
When I am setting flash cntrl for built-in flash in COMMANDER mode SB-600 and built-in flash are firing simultaneously but Bower is not firing simultaneously. I tried different settings for built-in flash without any success. I will be grateful for any input.
This might not apply to your Bower, but I had a similar situation with my little Neewer flash. On the back of the flash I have a switch for Slave Modes 1, 2, 3, 4. When I tried to get the Neewer to react to my D7000, it would flash, but the camera didn't pick it up. After moving the switch to diffferent positions, the camera and flash worked together so the image was lit by the flash.
Number 1 makes the flash fire when it sees the first flash from the camera; number 2 - second flash, etc.
Mar 5, 2012 12:50:29 #
Thank you. I tried to avoid preflash but did not find solution. I already paid for cable on eBay http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300602311013&ssPageName=ADME:L:OU:US:1123 I hope it helps me.
alksaki wrote:
quote=MMC I have Nikon D700 camera and 2 flash li... (show quote)
Mar 5, 2012 13:26:12 #
alksaki wrote:
br In COMMANDER mode, the built-in flash sends im... (show quote)
Great info- was looking for more lights- considering the SB 600 to go with my 800's. Thanks!
Mar 5, 2012 21:07:41 #
GoofyNewfie wrote:
quote=alksaki br In COMMANDER mode, the built-in... (show quote)
GoofyNewfie wrote:
quote=alksaki br In COMMANDER mode, the built-in... (show quote)
Instead of the SB-600, buy a lightly used SB-800 on eBay or other source (about $350). It has the SU-4 mode. Also, no new menus to learn.
Mar 5, 2012 21:19:12 #
Ditch the third party stuff and stick with the Nikon flashes. It is an amazing system. If you can find used SB-800s get one or three. I bought several used ones and now I have 6. With the 800s you have units that can be a trigger or remotes in TTL, Manual, or SU-4.
I understand the desire to save money with off-brand stuff, but IMO, it is a false economy. You save a few bucks and lost tons of capability.
MWAC's advice it spot on. One needs the Nikon CLS system, one has no idea what that commander thing is telling it.
I understand the desire to save money with off-brand stuff, but IMO, it is a false economy. You save a few bucks and lost tons of capability.
MWAC's advice it spot on. One needs the Nikon CLS system, one has no idea what that commander thing is telling it.
Mar 5, 2012 21:28:50 #
That cable is for the Coolpix 900 series. I don't think it will fit your D700. A basic PC cable WILL fit the PC port on your D700. PC cords are available at almost any camera or online store for around $15-$25.
Shoot with the SB-600 off camera, manual mode...connect PC cable to camera and SB-600. When the SB-600 pops, the Bower slave will flash.
Shoot with the SB-600 off camera, manual mode...connect PC cable to camera and SB-600. When the SB-600 pops, the Bower slave will flash.
MMC wrote:
Thank you. I tried to avoid preflash but did not f... (show quote)
Mar 5, 2012 21:39:29 #
The 600 has no place to accept a cable. It is Nikon's way for justifying the price-point difference. The 600 is a nice unit, but it has to be used as an on-camera unit or as a remote within the Nikon flash system. To use it with a Pocket Wizard Plus unit or other radio trigger it needs an adapter into which you plug the PW. It will work just fine with the newer Flex TT5.
Mar 5, 2012 21:42:45 #
It may work with a Radio Popper.
Anyone use those?
Curious to hear a report.
Anyone use those?
Curious to hear a report.
Mar 5, 2012 23:20:58 #
Thanks for catching my mistake about the PC connector on the SB-600.
CaptainC wrote:
The 600 has no place to accept a cable. It is Nikon's way for justifying the price-point difference. The 600 is a nice unit, but it has to be used as an on-camera unit or as a remote within the Nikon flash system. To use it with a Pocket Wizard Plus unit or other radio trigger it needs an adapter into which you plug the PW. It will work just fine with the newer Flex TT5.
Mar 6, 2012 07:15:45 #
CaptainC wrote:
The 600 has no place to accept a cable. It is Nikon's way for justifying the price-point difference.
I doubt that I will ever do this, but at least it's possible. http://strobist.blogspot.com/2007/12/easy-nikon-sb-600-sync-jack-mod.html
Mar 6, 2012 13:46:34 #
Thank you for the link and you interest to my problem. I bought on eBay AS-E900 adapter. I have not received it yet. I hope it can help me to solve my problem. CaptainC
absolutely right that I want to save money.
absolutely right that I want to save money.
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