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Mar 2, 2012 11:39:42   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
I took the day off today and I THOUGHT it was going to be sunny...it turned out to be a bit of a cloudy day and the conditions were changing constantly...so I ended up culling a lot of bad exposures.

I got to the city early so it was also hard to remember to reset the camera for "shade" and then "in the sunlight" conditions so I culled a LOT of shots. ::)

It was interesting in that the people I shot reacted positively and didn't seem to have a problem with it. The hard part was just composing, framing and sneaker zooming into the right spot/angle for a good shot...I have a LOT to learn, i can see that.

What you see here are the best of what I got...I tried to be critical but I can see how people get numb and don't know when to hack a photo...I'll let you comment and tell me what you think should go....

http://bobpavich.zenfolio.com/p1004748795

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Mar 2, 2012 11:42:38   #
docrob Loc: Durango, Colorado
 
rpavich wrote:
I took the day off today and I THOUGHT it was going to be sunny...it turned out to be a bit of a cloudy day and the conditions were changing constantly...so I ended up culling a lot of bad exposures.

I got to the city early so it was also hard to remember to reset the camera for "shade" and then "in the sunlight" conditions so I culled a LOT of shots. ::)

It was interesting in that the people I shot reacted positively and didn't seem to have a problem with it. The hard part was just composing, framing and sneaker zooming into the right spot/angle for a good shot...I have a LOT to learn, i can see that.

What you see here are the best of what I got...I tried to be critical but I can see how people get numb and don't know when to hack a photo...I'll let you comment and tell me what you think should go....

http://bobpavich.zenfolio.com/p1004748795
I took the day off today and I THOUGHT it was goin... (show quote)


OK cuz it's you I looked at your folio. 1st thought: Did you get permission to photo any or all of these folks?

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Mar 2, 2012 11:43:36   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
docrob wrote:
rpavich wrote:
I took the day off today and I THOUGHT it was going to be sunny...it turned out to be a bit of a cloudy day and the conditions were changing constantly...so I ended up culling a lot of bad exposures.

I got to the city early so it was also hard to remember to reset the camera for "shade" and then "in the sunlight" conditions so I culled a LOT of shots. ::)

It was interesting in that the people I shot reacted positively and didn't seem to have a problem with it. The hard part was just composing, framing and sneaker zooming into the right spot/angle for a good shot...I have a LOT to learn, i can see that.

What you see here are the best of what I got...I tried to be critical but I can see how people get numb and don't know when to hack a photo...I'll let you comment and tell me what you think should go....

http://bobpavich.zenfolio.com/p1004748795
I took the day off today and I THOUGHT it was goin... (show quote)


OK cuz it's you I looked at your folio. 1st thought: Did you get permission to photo any or all of these folks?
quote=rpavich I took the day off today and I THOU... (show quote)


Nope...not one.

Why?

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Mar 2, 2012 11:49:30   #
docrob Loc: Durango, Colorado
 
rpavich wrote:
docrob wrote:
rpavich wrote:
I took the day off today and I THOUGHT it was going to be sunny...it turned out to be a bit of a cloudy day and the conditions were changing constantly...so I ended up culling a lot of bad exposures.

I got to the city early so it was also hard to remember to reset the camera for "shade" and then "in the sunlight" conditions so I culled a LOT of shots. ::)

It was interesting in that the people I shot reacted positively and didn't seem to have a problem with it. The hard part was just composing, framing and sneaker zooming into the right spot/angle for a good shot...I have a LOT to learn, i can see that.

What you see here are the best of what I got...I tried to be critical but I can see how people get numb and don't know when to hack a photo...I'll let you comment and tell me what you think should go....

http://bobpavich.zenfolio.com/p1004748795
I took the day off today and I THOUGHT it was goin... (show quote)


OK cuz it's you I looked at your folio. 1st thought: Did you get permission to photo any or all of these folks?
quote=rpavich I took the day off today and I THOU... (show quote)


Nope...not one.

Why?
quote=docrob quote=rpavich I took the day off to... (show quote)


it shows

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Mar 2, 2012 11:55:12   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
docrob wrote:
rpavich wrote:
docrob wrote:
rpavich wrote:
I took the day off today and I THOUGHT it was going to be sunny...it turned out to be a bit of a cloudy day and the conditions were changing constantly...so I ended up culling a lot of bad exposures.

I got to the city early so it was also hard to remember to reset the camera for "shade" and then "in the sunlight" conditions so I culled a LOT of shots. ::)

It was interesting in that the people I shot reacted positively and didn't seem to have a problem with it. The hard part was just composing, framing and sneaker zooming into the right spot/angle for a good shot...I have a LOT to learn, i can see that.

What you see here are the best of what I got...I tried to be critical but I can see how people get numb and don't know when to hack a photo...I'll let you comment and tell me what you think should go....

http://bobpavich.zenfolio.com/p1004748795
I took the day off today and I THOUGHT it was goin... (show quote)


OK cuz it's you I looked at your folio. 1st thought: Did you get permission to photo any or all of these folks?
quote=rpavich I took the day off today and I THOU... (show quote)


Nope...not one.

Why?
quote=docrob quote=rpavich I took the day off to... (show quote)


it shows
quote=rpavich quote=docrob quote=rpavich I took... (show quote)


Not sure what you mean...can you elaborate specifically on what it is you're referring to?

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Mar 2, 2012 11:57:31   #
docrob Loc: Durango, Colorado
 
docrob wrote:
rpavich wrote:
docrob wrote:
rpavich wrote:
I took the day off today and I THOUGHT it was going to be sunny...it turned out to be a bit of a cloudy day and the conditions were changing constantly...so I ended up culling a lot of bad exposures.

I got to the city early so it was also hard to remember to reset the camera for "shade" and then "in the sunlight" conditions so I culled a LOT of shots. ::)

It was interesting in that the people I shot reacted positively and didn't seem to have a problem with it. The hard part was just composing, framing and sneaker zooming into the right spot/angle for a good shot...I have a LOT to learn, i can see that.

What you see here are the best of what I got...I tried to be critical but I can see how people get numb and don't know when to hack a photo...I'll let you comment and tell me what you think should go....

http://bobpavich.zenfolio.com/p1004748795
I took the day off today and I THOUGHT it was goin... (show quote)


OK cuz it's you I looked at your folio. 1st thought: Did you get permission to photo any or all of these folks?
quote=rpavich I took the day off today and I THOU... (show quote)


Nope...not one.

Why?
quote=docrob quote=rpavich I took the day off to... (show quote)


it shows
quote=rpavich quote=docrob quote=rpavich I took... (show quote)


I look at these and I see the same expression of folks faces - not pleased - curious maybe - more irritated I think than happy to have had their space invaded by some camera guy. Couple of em look like they are glowering at you.

Next time you go for a city photo safari don't just point the camera at people from across the road - be respectful - approach them if their faces or clothing or whatever speaks strongly enough to you that you are tempted to raise the camera.....turn them back into people instead of distant photo subjects....OH btw a really good lens for this kind of street portraiture is a 50mm cuz it will force you to get close, to make contact, to connect on some human level.....the photography then becomes musical - like a dance - the art is in creating that relationship.

Just some thoughts........your working your learning you its all good.

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Mar 2, 2012 12:02:38   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
docrob wrote:


I look at these and I see the same expression of folks faces - not pleased - curious maybe - more irritated I think than happy to have had their space invaded by some camera guy. Couple of em look like they are glowering at you.


The only person in this whole lot that didn't react positively to having their photo taken was the last woman..she was sort of "mentally challenged" and was actually yelling at nobody when I took that shot.

The others you see all (except for the guy walking past me with his back to me) all smiled and acknowledged my taking their picture, I said smiled and said "thank you" to each one and they smiled back at me.

An older gentleman (the close up) actually talked to me for about 20 minutes during and after I took his picture.

I was surprised at how positively everyone reacted to having their picture taken...but of course, the shots are just a millisecond in time, and may not show it.




docrob wrote:

Next time you go for a city photo safari don't just point the camera at people from across the road - be respectful - approach them if their faces or clothing or whatever speaks strongly enough to you that you are tempted to raise the camera.....


The lens that I used was a 35mm f/2 (approx 50mm on my crop sensor camera) and I was within 10 or 20 feet to many of them...not "distant" at all...





docrob wrote:

turn them back into people instead of distant photo subjects....


I didn't see them as subjects at all...they were people to me, interesting and we interacted.



docrob wrote:

OH btw a really good lens for this kind of street portraiture is a 50mm cuz it will force you to get close, to make contact, to connect on some human level.....the photography then becomes musical - like a dance - the art is in creating that relationship.


I used a 35mm for that purpose.



Just some thoughts........your working your learning you its all good.[/quote]

Thank you.

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Mar 2, 2012 12:11:26   #
docrob Loc: Durango, Colorado
 
rpavich wrote:
docrob wrote:
docrob wrote:
rpavich wrote:
docrob wrote:
rpavich wrote:
I took the day off today and I THOUGHT it was going to be sunny...it turned out to be a bit of a cloudy day and the conditions were changing constantly...so I ended up culling a lot of bad exposures.

I got to the city early so it was also hard to remember to reset the camera for "shade" and then "in the sunlight" conditions so I culled a LOT of shots. ::)

It was interesting in that the people I shot reacted positively and didn't seem to have a problem with it. The hard part was just composing, framing and sneaker zooming into the right spot/angle for a good shot...I have a LOT to learn, i can see that.

What you see here are the best of what I got...I tried to be critical but I can see how people get numb and don't know when to hack a photo...I'll let you comment and tell me what you think should go....

http://bobpavich.zenfolio.com/p1004748795
I took the day off today and I THOUGHT it was goin... (show quote)


OK cuz it's you I looked at your folio. 1st thought: Did you get permission to photo any or all of these folks?
quote=rpavich I took the day off today and I THOU... (show quote)


Nope...not one.

Why?
quote=docrob quote=rpavich I took the day off to... (show quote)


it shows
quote=rpavich quote=docrob quote=rpavich I took... (show quote)


I look at these and I see the same expression of folks faces - not pleased - curious maybe - more irritated I think than happy to have had their space invaded by some camera guy. Couple of em look like they are glowering at you.

Next time you go for a city photo safari don't just point the camera at people from across the road - be respectful - approach them if their faces or clothing or whatever speaks strongly enough to you that you are tempted to raise the camera.....turn them back into people instead of distant photo subjects....OH btw a really good lens for this kind of street portraiture is a 50mm cuz it will force you to get close, to make contact, to connect on some human level.....the photography then becomes musical - like a dance - the art is in creating that relationship.

Just some thoughts........your working your learning you its all good.
quote=docrob quote=rpavich quote=docrob quote=... (show quote)


Dcrob...
That's interesting that you say that.

The only person in this whole lot that didn't react positively to having their photo taken was the last woman..she was sort of "mentally challenged" and was actually yelling at nobody when I took that shot.

The others you see all (except for the guy walking past me with his back to me) all smiled and acknowledged my taking their picture, I said smiled and said "thank you" to each one and they smiled back at me.

An older gentleman (the close up) actually talked to me for about 20 minutes during and after I took his picture.

I was surprised at how positively everyone reacted to having their picture taken...but of course, the shots are just a millisecond in time, and may not show it.

PS: The lens that I used was a 35mm f/2 (approx 50mm on my crop sensor camera)
quote=docrob quote=docrob quote=rpavich quote=... (show quote)


Well there you have it and I see it's time for breakfast - perhaps a nice cold dish of crow?

I Am glad you used the 35mm good for you! That takes balls. And still, when I look at these pics I don't get any sense that there is a connection between you and them. Guess thats why I said what I said and why I assumed they were taken with zooms from across the road.

No story - just random people passing by and for that one does need to show faces, or get a release.

Now, time to pluck that crow.....and its still good and you are learning...

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Mar 2, 2012 12:14:00   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
docrob wrote:
rpavich wrote:
docrob wrote:
docrob wrote:
rpavich wrote:
docrob wrote:
rpavich wrote:
I took the day off today and I THOUGHT it was going to be sunny...it turned out to be a bit of a cloudy day and the conditions were changing constantly...so I ended up culling a lot of bad exposures.

I got to the city early so it was also hard to remember to reset the camera for "shade" and then "in the sunlight" conditions so I culled a LOT of shots. ::)

It was interesting in that the people I shot reacted positively and didn't seem to have a problem with it. The hard part was just composing, framing and sneaker zooming into the right spot/angle for a good shot...I have a LOT to learn, i can see that.

What you see here are the best of what I got...I tried to be critical but I can see how people get numb and don't know when to hack a photo...I'll let you comment and tell me what you think should go....

http://bobpavich.zenfolio.com/p1004748795
I took the day off today and I THOUGHT it was goin... (show quote)


OK cuz it's you I looked at your folio. 1st thought: Did you get permission to photo any or all of these folks?
quote=rpavich I took the day off today and I THOU... (show quote)


Nope...not one.

Why?
quote=docrob quote=rpavich I took the day off to... (show quote)


it shows
quote=rpavich quote=docrob quote=rpavich I took... (show quote)


I look at these and I see the same expression of folks faces - not pleased - curious maybe - more irritated I think than happy to have had their space invaded by some camera guy. Couple of em look like they are glowering at you.

Next time you go for a city photo safari don't just point the camera at people from across the road - be respectful - approach them if their faces or clothing or whatever speaks strongly enough to you that you are tempted to raise the camera.....turn them back into people instead of distant photo subjects....OH btw a really good lens for this kind of street portraiture is a 50mm cuz it will force you to get close, to make contact, to connect on some human level.....the photography then becomes musical - like a dance - the art is in creating that relationship.

Just some thoughts........your working your learning you its all good.
quote=docrob quote=rpavich quote=docrob quote=... (show quote)


Dcrob...
That's interesting that you say that.

The only person in this whole lot that didn't react positively to having their photo taken was the last woman..she was sort of "mentally challenged" and was actually yelling at nobody when I took that shot.

The others you see all (except for the guy walking past me with his back to me) all smiled and acknowledged my taking their picture, I said smiled and said "thank you" to each one and they smiled back at me.

An older gentleman (the close up) actually talked to me for about 20 minutes during and after I took his picture.

I was surprised at how positively everyone reacted to having their picture taken...but of course, the shots are just a millisecond in time, and may not show it.

PS: The lens that I used was a 35mm f/2 (approx 50mm on my crop sensor camera)
quote=docrob quote=docrob quote=rpavich quote=... (show quote)


Well there you have it and I see it's time for breakfast - perhaps a nice cold dish of crow?

I Am glad you used the 35mm good for you! That takes balls. And still, when I look at these pics I don't get any sense that there is a connection between you and them. Guess thats why I said what I said and why I assumed they were taken with zooms from across the road.

No story - just random people passing by and for that one does need to show faces, or get a release.

Now, time to pluck that crow.....and its still good and you are learning...
quote=rpavich quote=docrob quote=docrob quote=... (show quote)


Well...I didn't say I was good at it...I just did it to get my feet wet and start learning and was looking for pointers...no crow eating necessary. :) I appreciate you taking the time to comment.

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Mar 2, 2012 12:15:55   #
docrob Loc: Durango, Colorado
 
rpavich wrote:
docrob wrote:
rpavich wrote:
docrob wrote:
docrob wrote:
rpavich wrote:
docrob wrote:
rpavich wrote:
I took the day off today and I THOUGHT it was going to be sunny...it turned out to be a bit of a cloudy day and the conditions were changing constantly...so I ended up culling a lot of bad exposures.

I got to the city early so it was also hard to remember to reset the camera for "shade" and then "in the sunlight" conditions so I culled a LOT of shots. ::)

It was interesting in that the people I shot reacted positively and didn't seem to have a problem with it. The hard part was just composing, framing and sneaker zooming into the right spot/angle for a good shot...I have a LOT to learn, i can see that.

What you see here are the best of what I got...I tried to be critical but I can see how people get numb and don't know when to hack a photo...I'll let you comment and tell me what you think should go....

http://bobpavich.zenfolio.com/p1004748795
I took the day off today and I THOUGHT it was goin... (show quote)


OK cuz it's you I looked at your folio. 1st thought: Did you get permission to photo any or all of these folks?
quote=rpavich I took the day off today and I THOU... (show quote)


Nope...not one.

Why?
quote=docrob quote=rpavich I took the day off to... (show quote)


it shows
quote=rpavich quote=docrob quote=rpavich I took... (show quote)


I look at these and I see the same expression of folks faces - not pleased - curious maybe - more irritated I think than happy to have had their space invaded by some camera guy. Couple of em look like they are glowering at you.

Next time you go for a city photo safari don't just point the camera at people from across the road - be respectful - approach them if their faces or clothing or whatever speaks strongly enough to you that you are tempted to raise the camera.....turn them back into people instead of distant photo subjects....OH btw a really good lens for this kind of street portraiture is a 50mm cuz it will force you to get close, to make contact, to connect on some human level.....the photography then becomes musical - like a dance - the art is in creating that relationship.

Just some thoughts........your working your learning you its all good.
quote=docrob quote=rpavich quote=docrob quote=... (show quote)


Dcrob...
That's interesting that you say that.

The only person in this whole lot that didn't react positively to having their photo taken was the last woman..she was sort of "mentally challenged" and was actually yelling at nobody when I took that shot.

The others you see all (except for the guy walking past me with his back to me) all smiled and acknowledged my taking their picture, I said smiled and said "thank you" to each one and they smiled back at me.

An older gentleman (the close up) actually talked to me for about 20 minutes during and after I took his picture.

I was surprised at how positively everyone reacted to having their picture taken...but of course, the shots are just a millisecond in time, and may not show it.

PS: The lens that I used was a 35mm f/2 (approx 50mm on my crop sensor camera)
quote=docrob quote=docrob quote=rpavich quote=... (show quote)


Well there you have it and I see it's time for breakfast - perhaps a nice cold dish of crow?

I Am glad you used the 35mm good for you! That takes balls. And still, when I look at these pics I don't get any sense that there is a connection between you and them. Guess thats why I said what I said and why I assumed they were taken with zooms from across the road.

No story - just random people passing by and for that one does need to show faces, or get a release.

Now, time to pluck that crow.....and its still good and you are learning...
quote=rpavich quote=docrob quote=docrob quote=... (show quote)


Well...I didn't say I was good at it...I just did it to get my feet wet and start learning and was looking for pointers...no crow eating necessary. :) I appreciate you taking the time to comment.
quote=docrob quote=rpavich quote=docrob quote=... (show quote)


No, you didn't and thats to your credit..........

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Mar 2, 2012 14:30:04   #
MWAC Loc: Somewhere East Of Crazy
 
I'm confused.... Street Photography is suppose to be a candid look at society, so why would you want to use a short focal lenght lens and ask people for permission to take their photo? Aren't you then missing the whole "street/candid" part then?

I think these are actually are pretty well done for your first time, I'd like to see more of the people in thier environment than the close crops on their faces but that's a personal preference. I don't have the kahonies to even attempt street photography.

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Mar 2, 2012 14:37:15   #
sinatraman Loc: Vero Beach Florida, Earth,alpha quaudrant
 
there is NO expectation of privacy when you are out in a public place. MWAC is also correct that you lose the whole purpose of candids, and get posed fake photos when you ask. look at the street work of the masters like HCB on candids. this is actualy an area where the point and shoots shine as they are quieter and less noticeable than a dslr. out of respect for the dignity and humanity of the homeless, i do not shoot them. other than that its all fair game with no bag limits.

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Mar 2, 2012 15:19:04   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
MWAC wrote:
I'm confused.... Street Photography is suppose to be a candid look at society, so why would you want to use a short focal lenght lens and ask people for permission to take their photo? Aren't you then missing the whole "street/candid" part then?

I think these are actually are pretty well done for your first time, I'd like to see more of the people in thier environment than the close crops on their faces but that's a personal preference. I don't have the kahonies to even attempt street photography.
I'm confused.... Street Photography is suppose to ... (show quote)


MWAC,
I didn't ask anyone but I did thank them for taking their pic...

As for the short focal length...it's sort of traditional street photography length...it forces you to get close...

Here is a short clip or two of Thomas Luthard shooting a few shots.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-c3b5zSahFg&feature=g-user&context=G25f0cd5UCGXQYbcTJ33YXaRkl9RLgzrvT1yralCslHR966FoZYrQ

And

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiUSETpi40M&feature=g-user&context=G287056eUCGXQYbcTJ33YXaRkl9RLgzmYReOb1cyBApGb5RznDA38

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Mar 2, 2012 15:38:52   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
I just stumbled onto this...I wish I had seen it before I went out...I'd have approached things a bit differently and possibly gotten better photos.

Joel Meyerowitz - Street Photography

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Mar 2, 2012 17:28:24   #
vislp Loc: Level Pebble
 
I really like 1478! Bet he was an interesting talk!

VisLP

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