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Mar 1, 2012 08:56:33   #
Photoman74 Loc: Conroe Tx
 
2x2.5 - 4x5 - 8x10 - 16x20 -- 5x7 and 11x14 were standard size images. Why has this changed?

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Mar 1, 2012 09:25:05   #
shadow1284 Loc: Mid-West Michigan
 
People are always wanting more. Product manufactorers are always will to please them and take their money

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Mar 1, 2012 09:33:56   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
Where has it changed? Those sizes are still available as standards everywhere.

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Mar 1, 2012 09:38:39   #
PhotoArtsLA Loc: Boynton Beach
 
I think 12x18, 16x20, 20x24, 20x30, 24x36, 30x40 and so forth are also part of the standard set. ;)

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Mar 1, 2012 10:55:38   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
I think what you're referring to is the aspect ratio of digital cameras which is 2x3, 4x6, etc. However, this was exactly the same aspect ratio of 35mm film which was traditionally enlarged to 8x10 instead of 8x12. This always resulted in the cropping of 2 inches of an 8x12 to make it an 8x10.
The more things change, the more they stay the same.

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Mar 2, 2012 06:58:35   #
Iduno Loc: Near Tampa Florida
 
We need a standard, and lots of them.

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Mar 2, 2012 10:56:20   #
mgemstone Loc: Chicago/Cocoa beach/La/NY
 
This is coupled with technical advances such as higher res cameras, printer capable of printing quality images on larger format paper, and better inks combined with computer software to support it all. As smaller sizes paper demand reduces, paper manufacturers reduce the the choices of paper stock in that size. Of course, there is the tradition that bigger is better.

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Mar 2, 2012 10:58:44   #
jackm1943 Loc: Omaha, Nebraska
 
I still don't understand why camera manufacturers stayed with the silly 35mm format when they started making digital SLRs. They could easily have used sensors with aspect ratios more relevant to standards such as 5x7, 8x10, etc.

Frank T wrote:
I think what you're referring to is the aspect ratio of digital cameras which is 2x3, 4x6, etc. However, this was exactly the same aspect ratio of 35mm film which was traditionally enlarged to 8x10 instead of 8x12. This always resulted in the cropping of 2 inches of an 8x12 to make it an 8x10.
The more things change, the more they stay the same.

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Mar 2, 2012 13:03:15   #
Wesley Townsend Loc: Sarasota, FL USA
 
I'am just getting into digital photography after not enjoying this great hobby since the 60's and 70's. I would like to know how the European size designations compare to our print sizes. Since most of the best digital photography are from Europe, they use different print sizes codes for US standard sizes. Even Canon and Epson uses these codes. What gives?

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Mar 2, 2012 14:06:37   #
marcomarks Loc: Ft. Myers, FL
 
MT Shooter wrote:
Where has it changed? Those sizes are still available as standards everywhere.


Except it's not 4X5 but 4X6.

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Mar 2, 2012 17:22:19   #
Meives Loc: FORT LAUDERDALE
 
[quote=jackm1943]

I use to have a Kodak that took 4 x 7. I always liked that size. Expanded it would be 8 x 14. It required special paper and special frames, but I liked it. 4 x 6 is fine with me. I can crop, I can expand the photo. By the way. If you ever looked at 35mm film and your prints. The high speed developers would trim the edges. It has since been my duty to allow space around my subject to allow multiple cropping to be done. David in Florida

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Mar 2, 2012 17:23:00   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
marcomarks wrote:
MT Shooter wrote:
Where has it changed? Those sizes are still available as standards everywhere.


Except it's not 4X5 but 4X6.


4x5 is the standard for the 4" x 5" large format view camera. The 4x6 you are referring to is the standard 4"x6" print size for the consumer market. It was developed to give the average snapshooter a full-frame image from their 35mm film shots. Two totally different, but STANDARD formats.

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Mar 2, 2012 17:25:35   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
[quote=Meives]
jackm1943 wrote:


I use to have a Kodak that took 4 x 7. I always liked that size. Expanded it would be 8 x 14. It required special paper and special frames, but I liked it. 4 x 6 is fine with me. I can crop, I can expand the photo. By the way. If you ever looked at 35mm film and your prints. The high speed developers would trim the edges. It has since been my duty to allow space around my subject to allow multiple cropping to be done. David in Florida


That was probably the old Kodak Pocket Folder that took 127 roll film. It could be shot as 4x4 (cm), 4x6, 4x7 or 4x8 on the same roll of film depending on what camera you were using it in. Alas, another format gone to the big cutting room in the sky!

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Mar 2, 2012 17:38:51   #
randymoe
 
The D800 has a 4x5 shooting mode I plan to use. Making 8x10 and 12x15 easy on my 13x19 Canon printer. lol

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Mar 3, 2012 01:09:30   #
marcomarks Loc: Ft. Myers, FL
 
MT Shooter wrote:
marcomarks wrote:
MT Shooter wrote:
Where has it changed? Those sizes are still available as standards everywhere.


Except it's not 4X5 but 4X6.


4x5 is the standard for the 4" x 5" large format view camera. The 4x6 you are referring to is the standard 4"x6" print size for the consumer market. It was developed to give the average snapshooter a full-frame image from their 35mm film shots. Two totally different, but STANDARD formats.


Are we not discussing print sizes for a dSLR file? I'm not sure how medium and large format view cameras got in this conversation. I must have missed something.

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