Buying a Canon 70D kit at Sam's Club (Page 2): Well said. Mr MT SHooter has been drawn into an argument, and like so many I hold his opinions and advice in very high respect. I also...

alawry Loc: Timaru New Zealand

Well said. Mr MT SHooter has been drawn into an argument, and like so many I hold his opinions and advice in very high respect. I also see his protaganist's view. All my lenses are "low end" or "kit" I am happy with the results but I partake of the hobby for my own pleasure. One day I would like the oportunity to try a "proper" lens on my camera, and I both hope and don't hope to be blown away by the results. I want to upgrade my 50D to 7 or 70D but probably should upgrade my lenses instead. Mr OP, go for the kit you mentioned. Enjoy the creativity you just can't get with your bridge camera.

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sb Loc: Florida's East Coast

The STM lenses are designed to work better with the video capabilities of the 70D and are rated as pretty decent lenses. Better glass is always something you can spend more money on....

But Sam's Club online just says "1-year Warrantee" on their cameras - does anyone know if this is a US Warrantee or are Sam's Club cameras Gray Market?

woolpac Loc: Sydney Australia

MT Shooter wrote:

That's pretty much it for the mounts. They are easily broken and wear prematurely (once they get so loose you can get intermittent camera/lens communication problems). Much less durable than standard chrome plated brass mounts.

And metal mounts are screwed on to plastic lens bodies they all break if you meet with a decent accident.

mikedidi46 Loc: WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA

I have a 70D, and dumped the kit lens for a Cannon 24-105mm, f/4, 'L', but also look into the new 24-105 Cannon STM, it might be an even better deal.

Gifted One Loc: S. E. Idaho

I have shot most of the Rebels and have a 60D. I have both lens that are in question. They both have done me well. That being said I agree with everything that MT has said in this post. I have seen front element knocked off at slightest bang and Have been accidently knocked over shooting a concert Brock and jammed filter. Damaged my Pec up and am still recovery two month later.

Just a thought keep an eye on refurbished product from Canon. Yes I agree that kit lenses can be sold and up graded. I add 15-85 EFs, and 10-22 EFS and 70-300 EF DO.

I have shot award winning images with all the lens as I have added them.

You will want a great tripod for Landscapes. Look at used many great priced product that people have just not used.

I now have added a 6D and an L lens.

J. R.

billnourse Loc: Bloomfield, NM

I got the 70D kit you are talking about, but from Costco. Right after I bought it I got an 18-135 IS STM and found that I didn't use the 18-55 at all, and very seldom used the 55-250, which I ended up selling and getting a 70-300L. The wife got a T5i with the kit 18-55, but after she tried my 18-135 she got one and the 18-55 is in a drawer.

You can find kits with a bag, tripod, card and the 18-135 lens for 1350 or so on Amazon, which is only 50 or 60 more than the Sam's Kit. This will give you a great general use lens and let you pick exactly what you want in additional lenses. You can also get the kit with the 55-250 added for 1499.

Bill

The Villages Loc: The Villages, Florida

MT Shooter wrote:

Then I suggest you take the time to sit and install and remove a plastic mount lens thousands of times and calibrate the wear over the course of the experiment. As far as I know no one has ever wasted that much time to actually find out the exact number at which the failure is noticeable.

Where did this guy (Peterff) come from. He could drive one crazy with the disecting of ever comment.

We all have photographic questions that we would like answers too, but come on...don't beat it into the ground.

Billyspad Loc: The Philippines

PCity wrote:

Where did this guy (Peterff) come from. He could drive one crazy with the disecting of ever comment.

We all have photographic questions that we would like answers too, but come on...don't beat it into the ground.

Ever considered he may just have a great sense of humor and is taking the piss big style?

EdJ0307 Loc: out west someplace

MT Shooter wrote:

That's exactly why the manufacturers do not make any upscale lenses with plastic mounts, only the basic, entry level lenses are offered that way.

I have a Canon 60D that came with the 18-135 mm EF-S kit lens. Also have a 100-300 mm Ultrasonic that I have had for a looong time and considered a lower end lens. Both lenses have the metal mount. Are these lenses slightly higher quality and more upscale than I have been giving them credit for?

brittainsas1 Loc: Laytonsville, Md.

Sir Seahawk...I too initially bought a Rebel kit some five years ago. The very first thing I noticed was the non-smoothness of the focusing ring in both of them. If you are prone to MF, you'll be having a rather difficult time nailing that perfect focus point. The plastic mounts were not nearly so much of an issue in my book. Sure, the kit lenses will get you by, but as soon as you can , me think'st { IMHO } that you'll find more comfort with their mid-range quality. These lenses are usually denoted by a gold band.

Podnah Loc: Miramar Beach, FL

70D buyer...you're going to be changing lenses so often you will be sick of it in no time. Tamron has an excellent lens with huge spread, 16x300, for around $650. You will not be changing lenses all the time with this one.

Gifted One Loc: S. E. Idaho

I stair step from 18-55, 18-135, 17-85, and then to 15-85. Every move better glass. I would be leary of tripods that come as package. J. R.

mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey

Podnah wrote:

70D buyer...you're going to be changing lenses so often you will be sick of it in no time. Tamron has an excellent lens with huge spread, 16x300, for around $650. You will not be changing lenses all the time with this one.

That's correct except that the IQ of the two Canon kit STM lenses is better than the Tamron 16-300. This is not specifically a criticism of the Tamron. All super zoom lenses by their nature suffer from distortion and sharpness issues compared to lenses with smaller zoom ranges. The Tamron is no exception although it's probably the best performing super zoom lens out there.

Swede Loc: Trail, BC Canada

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mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey

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While its true that for the average user the plastic mounts will serve them well for years, your suggestion that the debate is between two people who don't know "jack shite" is highly inaccurate and insulting to them for no reason. While for practical purposes for the OP plastic mounts will likely work for as long as the lens are used, metal mounts are superior. MT Shooter is one of the more knowledgeable posters here, and while his expressed concerns using plastic mounts may be overkill depending on the amount of usage, they certainly are not inaccurate. Unlike your comment, their discussion was civil and respectful.