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Teleconverter for Sigma 50 - 500 advice
Jan 28, 2015 09:25:53   #
twillsol Loc: St. Louis, MO
 
I have a sigma 50 – 500 and really love it, good, sharp lens. I wonder how well a TC would work?
Anyone have any experience with a TC on this lens? Looking for recommendations on what to purchase.

I am willing to spend $200 - $400.

Thanks, appreciate any advice you can give.

Will

fyi: I use it with a Nikon D300S and D800.

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Jan 28, 2015 09:32:46   #
Birdshooter Loc: Wisconsin
 
From experienced shooters, I have learned that you will lose stops with a TC.

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Jan 28, 2015 09:40:19   #
xxredbeardxx Loc: San Clemente CA.
 
twillsol wrote:
I have a sigma 50 – 500 and really love it, good, sharp lens. I wonder how well a TC would work?
Anyone have any experience with a TC on this lens? Looking for recommendations on what to purchase.
Thanks, appreciate any advice you can give.
Will

fyi: I use it with a Nikon D300S and D800.


Some of the guys here use them with great success.
imagemeister is one of them. Check out his photo's.

It depends on the quality of your lens.
I was going to try it, but my lens isn't good enough.
I think yours probably is.

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Jan 28, 2015 19:59:49   #
nicksr1125 Loc: Mesa, AZ
 
A 2x converter will make you 50-500 f/9-f/13 in round numbers. You'll likely lose autofocus capability as well as the lens will be rather dark and hard to focus.

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Jan 29, 2015 02:18:00   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
twillsol wrote:
I have a sigma 50 – 500 and really love it, good, sharp lens. I wonder how well a TC would work?
Anyone have any experience with a TC on this lens? Looking for recommendations on what to purchase.

I am willing to spend $200 - $400.

Thanks, appreciate any advice you can give.

Will

fyi: I use it with a Nikon D300S and D800.


The Sigma TC would be your best bet.

However, my advice would be don't bother - the image quality will suffer, especially beyond 450mm when the lens gets soft w/o an extender, and you can forget about auto focus. Trying to manually focus through a lens that is F9 is also an exercise in frustration.

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Jan 29, 2015 06:33:57   #
DaveHam Loc: Reading UK
 
The 2x TC is not really an option with this lens; it makes it very, very difficult to use to get at best a soft image.

Kenco and Sigma both do 1.4 TC's. I've used the Kenco with the 50-500; it was OK stopped down to about F8 until getting near fully extended when it was too soft. Some DSLR's will not AF properly with a TC on this lens as well.

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Jan 29, 2015 08:16:38   #
shagbat Loc: London
 
DaveHam wrote:
The 2x TC is not really an option with this lens; it makes it very, very difficult to use to get at best a soft image.

Kenco and Sigma both do 1.4 TC's. I've used the Kenco with the 50-500; it was OK stopped down to about F8 until getting near fully extended when it was too soft. Some DSLR's will not AF properly with a TC on this lens as well.


I totally agree with Dave, I have the Sigma 50-500 and a 1.4x is sensible, I have the Sigma version, it will only focus manually. Hope this helps.

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Jan 29, 2015 08:26:51   #
twillsol Loc: St. Louis, MO
 
shagbat wrote:
I totally agree with Dave, I have the Sigma 50-500 and a 1.4x is sensible, I have the Sigma version, it will only focus manually. Hope this helps.


Thanks for all the input; definitely helped me decide not to get a TC.

Thanks a lot to all who replied.

Will

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Jan 29, 2015 11:21:43   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
DaveHam wrote:
The 2x TC is not really an option with this lens; it makes it very, very difficult to use to get at best a soft image.

Kenco and Sigma both do 1.4 TC's. I've used the Kenco with the 50-500; it was OK stopped down to about F8 until getting near fully extended when it was too soft. Some DSLR's will not AF properly with a TC on this lens as well.


I would expect any 2X would work poorly with the lens, that image quality would be poor.

Interesting to hear the Kenko 1.4X gives usable shots.

But which one? Kenko has made a number of different 1.4X... the most recent models have been: Pro 300 1.4X DG, MC4 1.4X DG, Pro 300 1.4X DGX, MC4 1.4X DGX... the DGX versions are the current models.

Too bad that it's soft at the longer end of the zoom, since that's where you'll most likely want to use a teleconverter.

Nikon has made some excellent teleconverters... but again, many different models. And, again, the problem is you need to find someone who can cite what specific TC model has been used and works well with that specific lens model.

But, really, on your D300, that lens should "act like" a 750mm with no loss of light (i.e., "free teleconverter effect" ).... That's already the equivalent of an insanely long lens. Just how long a lens do you need?

At some point there are diminishing returns with extremely long focal lengths, however they are achieved. Too difficult to get a steady shot (even with stabilization) and shooting distant subject through a lot of atmosphere makes for pretty poor image quality on all but the clearest days.

The longest lens Nikon, Canon and Sigma make are 800mm. Canon made a 1200mm (special order only), but stopped producing it some years ago

Maybe you just need to get closer to your subject? :roll:

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Jan 29, 2015 11:50:07   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
amfoto1 wrote:
I would expect any 2X would work poorly with the lens, that image quality would be poor.

Interesting to hear the Kenko 1.4X gives usable shots.

But which one? Kenko has made a number of different 1.4X... the most recent models have been: Pro 300 1.4X DG, MC4 1.4X DG, Pro 300 1.4X DGX, MC4 1.4X DGX... the DGX versions are the current models.

Too bad that it's soft at the longer end of the zoom, since that's where you'll most likely want to use a teleconverter.

Nikon has made some excellent teleconverters... but again, many different models. And, again, the problem is you need to find someone who can cite what specific TC model has been used and works well with that specific lens model.

But, really, on your D300, that lens should "act like" a 750mm with no loss of light (i.e., "free teleconverter effect" ).... That's already the equivalent of an insanely long lens. Just how long a lens do you need?

At some point there are diminishing returns with extremely long focal lengths, however they are achieved. Too difficult to get a steady shot (even with stabilization) and shooting distant subject through a lot of atmosphere makes for pretty poor image quality on all but the clearest days.

The longest lens Nikon, Canon and Sigma make are 800mm. Canon made a 1200mm (special order only), but stopped producing it some years ago

Maybe you just need to get closer to your subject? :roll:
I would expect any 2X would work poorly with the l... (show quote)


I've used the Pro 300 with a Sigma 50-500 - but it is really only "ok" and not great. In fact, I found more value in not using the TC, stopping the lens to F8 and staying away from full zoom, and cropping a little bit more in post processing, along with some careful sharpening.

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Jan 29, 2015 19:53:10   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
Gene51 wrote:
I've used the Pro 300 with a Sigma 50-500 - but it is really only "ok" and not great. In fact, I found more value in not using the TC, stopping the lens to F8 and staying away from full zoom, and cropping a little bit more in post processing, along with some careful sharpening.


Yes, this is the correct way of thinking. I would also add, that the correct and judicious use of specialized interpolation software to the cropped image can be very useful and can equal or surpass the result of using a TC.

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Jan 29, 2015 22:08:27   #
MarkD Loc: NYC
 
Gene51 wrote:
I've used the Pro 300 with a Sigma 50-500 - but it is really only "ok" and not great. In fact, I found more value in not using the TC, stopping the lens to F8 and staying away from full zoom, and cropping a little bit more in post processing, along with some careful sharpening.


:thumbup: I agree that you're better off stopping down a stop or two and doing a little cropping and sharpening. I tried a Kenko 300 1.4x converter with a Nikon 70-300 VR, and that's what I ended up doing instead.

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Jan 30, 2015 00:02:26   #
carl hervol Loc: jacksonville florida
 
Thats not true my TC work with AF you just have to buy one with AF

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Jan 30, 2015 13:09:00   #
rfmaude41 Loc: Lancaster, Texas (DFW area)
 
DaveHam wrote:
The 2x TC is not really an option with this lens; it makes it very, very difficult to use to get at best a soft image.

Kenco and Sigma both do 1.4 TC's. I've used the Kenco with the 50-500; it was OK stopped down to about F8 until getting near fully extended when it was too soft. Some DSLR's will not AF properly with a TC on this lens as well.


All of the Nikon DSLR's will focus with the Sigma extender (use the sigma 1.4 with my 150-500), not sure about the Kenko though...

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