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Jan 27, 2015 16:00:29   #
florida tl Loc: Largo, FL
 
I need some input please. I have a Canon 18-200mm lens that I plan on taking to the Grand Canyon, in April. But I'm wondering if I should invest in the 10-22mm for the trip. Just for the wide angle shots. Any advice would be great.

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Jan 27, 2015 16:08:48   #
MarkintheHV Loc: Hudson Valley
 
I am headed out that way soon, and I am taking my Tokina 11-16 as well as my 18-270

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Jan 27, 2015 16:10:03   #
btbg
 
Depends a lot on your style of shooting, but the Grand Canyon is a big place. If you are trying to capture all of it plus a foreground then you need to be able to go wide.
The Grand Canyon can be shot successfully with a 500mm, a 10mm, or anything in between. Shoot your own style and use the appropriate lens for the scene in front of you. When we visited the north rim of the Grand Canyon last year I shot with a 12-24, 24-70, 70-200, and 150-500. I would have used wider if I had it and would have used an 800 if I had that.

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Jan 27, 2015 16:24:40   #
RWR Loc: La Mesa, CA
 
florida tl wrote:
I need some input please. I have a Canon 18-200mm lens that I plan on taking to the Grand Canyon, in April. But I'm wondering if I should invest in the 10-22mm for the trip. Just for the wide angle shots. Any advice would be great.


What does "ISO recommendation on Lens" have to do with your question??

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Jan 27, 2015 16:48:40   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
RWR wrote:
What does "ISO recommendation on Lens" have to do with your question??


I was wondering that also.

However, my answer to the actual question is that while you indeed would get some better images with the wide angle lens you can do just find with 18mm. Several things are more important than the wide angle lens:
1. A good tripod (so you can use minimum ISO and f16 or higher to get large depth of field),
2. A remote release for your camera so your images won't suffer from camera movement during shutter release (and PS do turn off image stabilization when using the tripod), and
3. A good quality polarizer (and be sure to use it!), and finally,
4. Getting up early and staying late to get the best light.

Enjoy!

One where I replaced the drab sky.
One where I replaced the drab sky....
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Jan 27, 2015 17:04:07   #
ptcanon3ti Loc: NJ
 
RWR wrote:
What does "ISO recommendation on Lens" have to do with your question??


I think the title "ISO" means - "Is/I'm Seeking Out"...

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Jan 27, 2015 17:17:27   #
lighthouse Loc: No Fixed Abode
 
florida tl wrote:
I need some input please. I have a Canon 18-200mm lens that I plan on taking to the Grand Canyon, in April. But I'm wondering if I should invest in the 10-22mm for the trip. Just for the wide angle shots. Any advice would be great.


You are not investing, you are buying.
But yes, it would be a good reason to buy an ultrawide lens.
I would suggest the 10-18mm instead of a 10-22mm.
Cheaper and very good optics.

But if you are only buying it for the wide views, to "fit it all in", then my answer changes to no. That is not what these are for.
If you use it like that you will go home with a heap of boring shots that you cannot see anything in.

Here is a very good article on how to use them.
http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/how-to-use-ultra-wide-lenses.htm

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Jan 27, 2015 17:40:30   #
RWR Loc: La Mesa, CA
 
MtnMan wrote:
I was wondering that also.

However, my answer to the actual question is that while you indeed would get some better images with the wide angle lens you can do just find with 18mm. Several things are more important than the wide angle lens:
1. A good tripod (so you can use minimum ISO and f16 or higher to get large depth of field),
2. A remote release for your camera so your images won't suffer from camera movement during shutter release (and PS do turn off image stabilization when using the tripod), and
3. A good quality polarizer (and be sure to use it!), and finally,
4. Getting up early and staying late to get the best light.

Enjoy!
I was wondering that also. br br However, my ans... (show quote)


Excellent advice all! Being narrow minded, most of my wider scenes of the canyon were shot with a 50mm lens, but I intend to take a 21mm next time (FX format, of course).

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Jan 27, 2015 17:41:23   #
RWR Loc: La Mesa, CA
 
ptcanon3ti wrote:
I think the title "ISO" means - "Is/I'm Seeking Out"...


Now that makes sense!

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Jan 27, 2015 17:43:19   #
nakkh Loc: San Mateo, Ca
 
I would shoot with a longer lens & shoot Multi shot panoramas- Then stitch the photos together.

My 2ยข

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Jan 27, 2015 19:36:26   #
btbg
 
Longer lenses and panoramas have a lot of merit. However, if you want the depth of field to emphasize the foreground and still have a sharp background wide angle is kind of important.

The nice thing about the Grand Canyon is it is always different. It's best in bad weather, really early, or really late. Most of the rest of the time there are harsh shadows.

Wide angle can provide unique perspectives. If you can afford the wide angle lens get it, then use it judiciously.

In addition, the Grand Canyon is a great place to play with HDR.


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Jan 28, 2015 06:05:19   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
florida tl wrote:
I need some input please. I have a Canon 18-200mm lens that I plan on taking to the Grand Canyon, in April. But I'm wondering if I should invest in the 10-22mm for the trip. Just for the wide angle shots. Any advice would be great.


My vote goes for both. If you can justify the 10-22, its a great lens. But give the longer lens/pano approach a shot.

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Jan 28, 2015 06:35:09   #
Gifted One Loc: S. E. Idaho
 
I have the 10-22 EFs Canon and it's an amazing lens. I use it with the 15-85 Canon. There are many people that buy the UWA and just don't use it, hence lots of used on the market.

Keeping in mind that all prospective angles render their own flavor. Stitched, UWA and super-tellis. I find that a good stabilization system is essential. You will need a good tripod and inovalomitor. Golden hour and blue period and night shots can be great there.

Hope to see ya there1

J. R.

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Jan 28, 2015 06:55:35   #
Denisedancer Loc: Sydney Australia
 
florida tl wrote:
I need some input please. I have a Canon 18-200mm lens that I plan on taking to the Grand Canyon, in April. But I'm wondering if I should invest in the 10-22mm for the trip. Just for the wide angle shots. Any advice would be great.


I have both these Canon lenses. When I first bought the 10-20mm lens I discovered that most of the photos I took with that lens were taken at 20mm. So I thought what's the point in having this 10-20 lens when the 18-200 covers all I take. I considered selling the lens but instead I'm making more of an effort to try taking at the widest angle. I have to make a conscious effort to do this and learn how to use this lens.

When I went to US in 2013, I chose to only take the 18-200 lens to lighten the luggage load. I'll attach a couple of photos I took at 18mm from the North Rim.

I just don't see a lot of difference between 10mm and 18mm for the effort of changing lenses when traveling but that's something you have to decide for yourself.

Perhaps someone has two photos one at 10mm and one at 20mm they could post to compare?

From the North Rim @ 18mm
From the North Rim @ 18mm...
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From the North Rim @ 18mm
From the North Rim @ 18mm...
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and one @ 50mm
and one @ 50mm...
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Jan 28, 2015 07:19:51   #
Gifted One Loc: S. E. Idaho
 
"I just don't see a lot of difference between 10mm and 18mm for the effort of changing lenses when traveling but that's something you have to decide for yourself."

That's my point there are many people that just don't see wide. 18-10x1.6=12.8 prospective. My people never shot Verticals but that is not working the OP.

J. R.

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