Sorry, but as you live out there in wherethefuck land, you know little to nothing of what's going on here.

First, you can see the suspect was white, so why bring race into it????

Second, almost three times as many whites as blacks are killed by the police.

Third, our issue is not really legal gun ownership, it is ILLEGAL gun ownership. Are you one of those who thinks taking away legal gun ownership will somehow fix everything, somehow make those with illegal guns (by definition the criminals) turn their guns in?

Fourth, your comments on our police versus the Brit police is pretty lame. Our fatal occurrences here are few and far between.

Fifth, many here believe in suicide by cop as a legitimate way out. It's sad, but true. It's not limited to the mentally challenged, to PTSD, to sickness, etc. some just want to go.

Finally, I will say that you sound like one who never had to face such domestic danger as someone waving a gun at you. Police do, and to expect them to ignore it is insane. It's my opinion that pulling a gun on a cop, or trying to take his gun from him, is most likely a death sentence (and earned). Physically attacking a cop is gross stupidity and cannot end well for anyone, regardless of color. You hear stories out there put in motion by our race-baiting media, but as I said, 3 times as many whites as blacks are shot by cops here. In rural areas, in Appalachia, etc., but our media rarely if ever reports it as it does not fit there race-based storyline.

If you feel it is right and correct to kill people with mental problems without investigating every other way of resolving a situation then my friend you and your children are very welcome to the sick and violent society in which you live.
As I understand it he was a vet who fought for his country. He was armed with a gun that fired copper balls? I assume it does not go bang when the trigger is pulled so did the police not notice that?
You live unfortunately for you in a society where law enforcement is based upon brute force and gun power. Do you feel safe and secure. I doubt it.


Your response is the knee-jerk, xenophobic one I expected. Kudos!

I will repeat that you sound like someone who never had to face such domestic danger (or any other danger) as someone waving a gun at you. Newsflash buckaroo ---When a gun is pulled out, there is not a lot of time to “investigate” other ways of resolving a situation such as a time out, a talking stick, a committee, etc. Bullets move quite quickly, so the time for analyzing and decision making is usually measured in nanoseconds, not days! Once a gun came out, the situation became dire, as I already explained.

Your comment about sick, violent societies is rich, especially given where you now live and, even more remarkably, where you came from…….I would say Europe has been pretty violent as of late! Gosh, I wonder if those Islamist terrorists in Paris would have gotten as far if the cops were armed and the citizens had legal guns???? Hmmmmm.

Yes, I DO feel safe-----very safe, and no, our policing is not based upon brute force and gun power alone. Our police are well aware of the dangers, the violence, in the world, and are prepared accordingly. In fact, I will take the NYPD over the Paris police, or any other police force in the world.

Yes, the individual that started this little debate was once a warrior, and for whatever the reason he decided to commit suicide via death by cop. Again, for you to think that the police should have known the gun (at a distance) was not a powerful one is naïve, possibly worse.

Finally, yes--------I have no problem with legal guns. We have them here, and it works pretty well. The issues we have are with illegal guns, which are creating havoc. Note that if we didn’t have them, we would probably still have rotten teeth, be drinking tea, and voting for PM and idolizing an archaic monarchy.


Compare deaths by shooting in UK and the US making the necessary calculation for population numbers and then tell me guns of any sort work or are generally needed either by law enforcement agencies or God forbid the general population.