Death penalty by lethal injection.
Jul 12, 2016 21:05:32 #
crissx09 wrote:
For a long time we have had lawyers, judges and me... (show quote)
I suspect that if your neighbour accused you of raping his 11 month old daughter, you would want some money spent on a trial.
Jul 12, 2016 21:18:32 #
The only problem with the death penalty is that it is irrevocable. And, many innocent people have been executed for a crime they didn't commit. I can't think of anything worse than being sentenced for a heinous crime of which I am innocent then languishing for a considerable time exhausting all avenues of appeal before departing this earth to the celebrations of those who thought I was guilty when all along I was innocent. Ideally the system should be improved to the point of infallibility but there will always be corrupt cops, lawyers even judges as well as mistaken witness and inaccurate or fabricated evidence so that will never happen. An interesting question is how would one of us feel if a member of their family were executed for a crime they didn't commit? I think the answer is obvious. And what failure (in the system) rate would be acceptable? I'm not saying people who commit shocking crimes don't deserve the ultimate penalty. I'm saying that the system is not fool-proof. And therein lies the dilemma.
Jul 12, 2016 21:46:54 #
boberic wrote:
One must always remember that our criminal justice system is rooted in the conceptthat " It is better that 100 men go free thgan 1 man be convicted wrongly" Especially today with current technology many people judged to be guilty have in fact be proven innocent. I am opposed to the death penalty. Furthermore it is actually more expensive to excute some one than to improson him for life. Please pardon my many typos as my editing sk**ls are non existant
This cost discrepancy is only because we pay lawyers significantly more than we pay corrections officers. This is regardless of the degree of danger, or difficulty of the job.
Excellent opportunity for law students to intern, gain experience, and learn the real meaning of evil, only allow death penalty appeals to be handled by pre-law students - for free and experience! Make all appeal cases limited to one year or better yet, 1 semister, and it will also solve the endless appeal process, and empty our death rows.
Damn, I am a genius ..... I should be elected King of our justice system! If it was only that easy!
Jul 12, 2016 21:48:34 #
UXOEOD wrote:
a legend in your own mindThis cost discrepancy is only because we pay lawye... (show quote)
Jul 12, 2016 21:53:28 #
phcaan wrote:
It is a fact. With the legal appeal process and legal fees of the accused paid for by the state he is correct. That is the reason I am against the death penalty also, it costs much more that life without possibility of parole.
You have misidentified the cause and effect. The reason it costs so much to excute someone isn't the cost of the penalty, it is the cost of lawyers. Therefore, the solution to the cost problem, isn't less death penalty, but change the method we pay lawyers!
And the reason this won't hsppen, too damn many lawyers in our legislation process!
Jul 13, 2016 08:11:53 #
boberic wrote:
One must always remember that our criminal justice system is rooted in the conceptthat " It is better that 100 men go free thgan 1 man be convicted wrongly" Especially today with current technology many people judged to be guilty have in fact be proven innocent. I am opposed to the death penalty. Furthermore it is actually more expensive to excute some one than to improson him for life. Please pardon my many typos as my editing sk**ls are non existant
On that note, I propose an optional third verdict in Capital murder cases; Guilty, but not beyond a reasonable doubt. With this verdict, the offender is automatically spared the Death Penalty. It might go against 200+ years of US jurisprudence, but is preferable to sending a guilty offender free or an innocent to his death
Jul 13, 2016 08:25:33 #
Shutterbugsailer wrote:
On that note, I propose an optional third verdict in Capital murder cases; Guilty, but not beyond a reasonable doubt. With this verdict, the offender is automatically spared the Death Penalty. It might go against 200+ years of US jurisprudence, but is preferable to sending a guilty offender free or an innocent to his death
How many states actually have the death penalty now? I was under the impression that states were having problems obtaining the meds...I may be wrong...
Jul 13, 2016 08:58:24 #
PaulG wrote:
The only problem with the death penalty is that it... (show quote)
Most of the ones found guilty today are found guilty because of modern technology. They should be put to death immediately. Lawyers
should be required to put in so many hours a years working pro bono to keep their licenses.
Jul 13, 2016 12:13:58 #
the fact is that nothing is perfect. if wee wait for perfection, we'll be scratching our ass's for another 100 years. some innocents will die, like the 5000+ who died in Iraq because of faulty evidence. oh by the way I prefer the 45 acp. for quick executions.
Jul 13, 2016 14:26:26 #
My MAIN problem with the death penalty is that we have executed way to many people who it was discovered did NOT actually commit/participate in the crime they were convicted of.
Jul 13, 2016 18:26:59 #
Checkmate wrote:
Most of the ones found guilty today are found guilty because of modern technology. They should be put to death immediately. Lawyers
should be required to put in so many hours a years working pro bono to keep their licenses.
should be required to put in so many hours a years working pro bono to keep their licenses.
The problem is the system is still not foolproof and you cannot 100% guarantee that every person executed is guilty
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