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Jan 15, 2015 10:17:34   #
troutbum Loc: north central pennsylvania
 
Is it possible to get great results using a full frame camera and dx lens by cropping the edges to eliminate the vignetting? And also this is keeping the camera in fx format not allowing it to switch dx crop sensor. Maybe the pixel loss would be less sever through manual crop and I suppose this would be best accomplished if shot in raw and done in post processing. I ask this question because I believe I would like to try full frame but have some older film lens the still work very well and they are the faster 2.8's. A true amateur with a desire to save some money after the cost of expensive camera. Maybe D610 if can put it together, Still enjoy my old D90 though, will make great backup. Good day to all

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Jan 15, 2015 10:21:09   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
troutbum wrote:
Is it possible to get great results using a full frame camera and dx lens by cropping the edges to eliminate the vignetting? And also this is keeping the camera in fx format not allowing it to switch dx crop sensor. Maybe the pixel loss would be less sever through manual crop and I suppose this would be best accomplished if shot in raw and done in post processing. I ask this question because I believe I would like to try full frame but have some older film lens the still work very well and they are the faster 2.8's. A true amateur with a desire to save some money after the cost of expensive camera. Maybe D610 if can put it together, Still enjoy my old D90 though, will make great backup. Good day to all
Is it possible to get great results using a full f... (show quote)


While all DX lenses will vignette on a FX body. It is possible to shoot them in FX mode as well. Many DX zoom lenses will vignette at the wide end of the zoom, but not at the long end, allowing for full frame images with that DX lens at its longer zoom positions. Yes, you are always using the MP sensor size when shooting in FX mode, and will usually save more of those pixels shooting the DX lens in FX mode and cropping the vignette out in post processing.
As for "older" film lenses, they are ALL full frame lenses. DX (crop sensor) is pretty much a digital phenomenon, except of course, for the Kodak APS film fiasco.
And if any of your old film lenses are AF lenses, they will work 100% as well on your D610 as they did on an AF film Nikon.

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Jan 15, 2015 10:25:57   #
OddJobber Loc: Portland, OR
 
troutbum wrote:
I believe I would like to try full frame but have some older film lens the still work very well and they are the faster 2.8's.


The older lenses are most likely FX.

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Jan 15, 2015 10:32:09   #
RedBirdMan Loc: San Francisco
 
OddJobber wrote:
The older lenses are most likely FX.


Yep; copy that! Unless your shooting sports or riots and don't mind manual focusing, old glass could make things delightful for you. I suggest you rent a D610 for a few days from borrowlenses.com and find out before plunking down $2k. Good luck!

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Jan 15, 2015 10:42:16   #
troutbum Loc: north central pennsylvania
 
Thank you MT and oddjobber for for ur inputs I am an old body with a lot to learn so I really enjoy this site with everyone's input very valuble.

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Jan 16, 2015 11:23:31   #
goldieboy
 
Hi, i bought a nikon d600 from a discounter and was disappointed with the dx lenses that were included. sold them on ebay and got nikon refurbished lens got a 28-70 and a 70-300 WOW what a difference...dont have to use the built in crop or crop after...best to have the lense on the camera that it was made for... its like putting pep boys tires on you Ferrari. .

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Jan 16, 2015 12:08:05   #
Past Pro Loc: Spring Hill, Florida
 
goldieboy wrote:
Hi, i bought a nikon d600 from a discounter and was disappointed with the dx lenses that were included. sold them on ebay and got nikon refurbished lens got a 28-70 and a 70-300 WOW what a difference...dont have to use the built in crop or crop after...best to have the lense on the camera that it was made for... its like putting pep boys tires on you Ferrari. .


I'll absolutely remember this when it comes time for new tires!!! :lol:

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Jan 16, 2015 12:52:13   #
troutbum Loc: north central pennsylvania
 
No question that a fx lens on a fx body is the perfect match. Most of my lens are older made for late model film cameras, after some research it seems they may be of full frame format. I do have an 18 to 105 that came with my D90 and a 10.5 fisheye I have fun playing with and I see nikon does not even offer that lens in fx, that being so wide it may not even be noticeable on a fx body.

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Jan 16, 2015 14:15:27   #
OddJobber Loc: Portland, OR
 
troutbum wrote:
...a 10.5 fisheye I have fun playing with and I see nikon does not even offer that lens in fx, that being so wide it may not even be noticeable on a fx body.

You're forgetting the crop factor. The 10.5mm on your D90 has the same angle of view as 15.75mm on a FX body. Nikon has made 13 and 15mm FX lenses and still makes 14mm and 14-24mm FX lenses, both of them also f:2.8.

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Jan 16, 2015 14:17:25   #
jamesl Loc: Pennsylvania
 
MT Shooter wrote:
While all DX lenses will vignette on a FX body. It is possible to shoot them in FX mode as well. Many DX zoom lenses will vignette at the wide end of the zoom, but not at the long end, allowing for full frame images with that DX lens at its longer zoom positions. Yes, you are always using the MP sensor size when shooting in FX mode, and will usually save more of those pixels shooting the DX lens in FX mode and cropping the vignette out in post processing.
As for "older" film lenses, they are ALL full frame lenses. DX (crop sensor) is pretty much a digital phenomenon, except of course, for the Kodak APS film fiasco.
And if any of your old film lenses are AF lenses, they will work 100% as well on your D610 as they did on an AF film Nikon.
While all DX lenses will vignette on a FX body. It... (show quote)


I actually had wanted to ask about the older Nikon AF lenses. As long as they are marked AF, will they work on a D7100, and would they auto-focus using the focus motor in the D7100 body?

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Jan 16, 2015 14:19:13   #
Wellhiem Loc: Sunny England.
 
Be carefull it is possible for a crop lens to catch on the mirror of a fullframe camera. If in doubt, don't.

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Jan 16, 2015 14:20:04   #
OddJobber Loc: Portland, OR
 
jamesl wrote:
I actually had wanted to ask about the older Nikon AF lenses. As long as they are marked AF, will they work on a D7100, and would they auto-focus using the focus motor in the D7100 body?


Yes. Your D7100 has that little screwdriver thing on the front that drives the auto focus mechanism in older lenses.

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Jan 16, 2015 14:22:33   #
jamesl Loc: Pennsylvania
 
OddJobber wrote:
Yes. Your D7100 has that little screwdriver thing on the front that drives the auto focus mechanism in older lenses.


I thought so but just wanted to be sure. Thanks again.

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Jan 16, 2015 14:36:58   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
jamesl wrote:
I actually had wanted to ask about the older Nikon AF lenses. As long as they are marked AF, will they work on a D7100, and would they auto-focus using the focus motor in the D7100 body?


Absolutely

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Jan 16, 2015 14:37:52   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
Wellhiem wrote:
Be carefull it is possible for a crop lens to catch on the mirror of a fullframe camera. If in doubt, don't.


ONLY if you are using a Canon FF body!
No other manufacturer has this issue.

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