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Jan 11, 2015 10:17:24   #
jbaird Loc: Coatesville, Pa
 
I have taken a number of pictures of birds with my D200 and D3 and AFS Nikkor 4.5/5.6 G ED VR 70-300mm at 300mm. The images are fairly small and seem to be in focus but when cropped larger (raw format), they become really fuzzy. All pictures are taken with autofocus.

I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong, any guidance?

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Jan 11, 2015 10:23:54   #
Db7423 Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
 
What do they look like when you back of to around 250- 275mm? ;)

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Jan 11, 2015 10:34:23   #
Desert Gecko Loc: desert southwest, USA
 
Have you applied any sharpening? Raw files are just that: raw, with no sharpening that your camera would do in-body with a jpeg. If you are uncertain, try shooting with raw + jpeg to compare.

And how are you cropping? If you're talking about enlarging with Window Picture Viewer, you'll get lots of pixelation that wouldn't be there in a true crop with, say, Photoshop or Lightroom.

Just a couple basic thoughts.

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Jan 11, 2015 10:38:54   #
RWR Loc: La Mesa, CA
 
jbaird wrote:
I have taken a number of pictures of birds with my D200 and D3 and AFS Nikkor 4.5/5.6 G ED VR 70-300mm at 300mm. The images are fairly small and seem to be in focus but when cropped larger (raw format), they become really fuzzy. All pictures are taken with autofocus.

I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong, any guidance?


The main thing you're doing wrong is that you're not using a 300 f/2.8 or f/4.0 Nikkor ED lens. A 500 or 600mm lens would be even better, you'll not need to crop as much. For what you're doing, there's no substitute for top-quality glass.

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Jan 11, 2015 10:40:40   #
jbaird Loc: Coatesville, Pa
 
Desert Gecko wrote:
Have you applied any sharpening? Raw files are just that: raw, with no sharpening that your camera would do in-body with a jpeg. If you are uncertain, try shooting with raw + jpeg to compare.

And how are you cropping? If you're talking about enlarging with Window Picture Viewer, you'll get lots of pixelation that wouldn't be there in a true crop with, say, Photoshop or Lightroom.

Just a couple basic thoughts.


using cc lightroom

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Jan 11, 2015 10:41:13   #
jimmya Loc: Phoenix
 
jbaird wrote:
I have taken a number of pictures of birds with my D200 and D3 and AFS Nikkor 4.5/5.6 G ED VR 70-300mm at 300mm. The images are fairly small and seem to be in focus but when cropped larger (raw format), they become really fuzzy. All pictures are taken with autofocus.

I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong, any guidance?


Could it be camera movement?

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Jan 11, 2015 10:46:12   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
jbaird wrote:
I have taken a number of pictures of birds with my D200 and D3 and AFS Nikkor 4.5/5.6 G ED VR 70-300mm at 300mm. The images are fairly small and seem to be in focus but when cropped larger (raw format), they become really fuzzy. All pictures are taken with autofocus.

I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong, any guidance?


You are witnessing the phenomenon of viewing perspective. Even a billboard image looks good when driving by it on the street, but get right up in front of it and it looks like crap!
You may be asking too much of your camera and lens. Are you using a UV filter on it? (If so, take it off.) Zoom lenses are always worse at the extremes than at the middle focal lengths, just the nature of the beast as some compromises have to be made to get the zoom, especially the longer zooms. Lastly, newer camera offer AF Fine Tuning so you can adjust the sharpness of the cameras AF system to the lens, sadly your D200 is too old to offer this feature, but on cameras that have it available, it is VERY helpful in acquiring accurate autofocus.
Good luck.

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Jan 11, 2015 10:54:58   #
jbaird Loc: Coatesville, Pa
 
Desert Gecko wrote:
Have you applied any sharpening? Raw files are just that: raw, with no sharpening that your camera would do in-body with a jpeg. If you are uncertain, try shooting with raw + jpeg to compare.

And how are you cropping? If you're talking about enlarging with Window Picture Viewer, you'll get lots of pixelation that wouldn't be there in a true crop with, say, Photoshop or Lightroom.

Just a couple basic thoughts.



No I wasn't, when I applied the sharpening in Lightroom, it looks much better. Thanks.

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Jan 11, 2015 10:56:24   #
jbaird Loc: Coatesville, Pa
 
MT Shooter wrote:
You are witnessing the phenomenon of viewing perspective. Even a billboard image looks good when driving by it on the street, but get right up in front of it and it looks like crap!
You may be asking too much of your camera and lens. Are you using a UV filter on it? (If so, take it off.) Zoom lenses are always worse at the extremes than at the middle focal lengths, just the nature of the beast as some compromises have to be made to get the zoom, especially the longer zooms. Lastly, newer camera offer AF Fine Tuning so you can adjust the sharpness of the cameras AF system to the lens, sadly your D200 is too old to offer this feature, but on cameras that have it available, it is VERY helpful in acquiring accurate autofocus.
Good luck.
You are witnessing the phenomenon of viewing persp... (show quote)


Thanks, I kind of thought it was a glass issue. I am saving my money for the 600 sigma. That's the one I really want. Just in my digital learning stages right now. Didn't know that the raw photo needed sharpening applied to it.

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Jan 11, 2015 10:57:09   #
jbaird Loc: Coatesville, Pa
 
jimmya wrote:
Could it be camera movement?


Had VR on and shot at 1/2000 @ F4.5. Don't think it was camera shake because the original image appears sharp to me.

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Jan 11, 2015 11:06:57   #
davidrb Loc: Half way there on the 45th Parallel
 
jbaird wrote:
I have taken a number of pictures of birds with my D200 and D3 and AFS Nikkor 4.5/5.6 G ED VR 70-300mm at 300mm. The images are fairly small and seem to be in focus but when cropped larger (raw format), they become really fuzzy. All pictures are taken with autofocus.

I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong, any guidance?


Your camera is autofocusing on something other than the bird you select as a subject. Figure out what it is actually focusing on and why it is focusing on that object. Your problem will be resolved. GL

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Jan 11, 2015 11:33:01   #
Desert Gecko Loc: desert southwest, USA
 
Actually, if you were to upload a sample and click "store original," someone could probably tell you what's going on without having to guess.

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Jan 11, 2015 11:40:26   #
Apaflo Loc: Anchorage, Alaska
 
jbaird wrote:
Had VR on and shot at 1/2000 @ F4.5. Don't think it was camera shake because the original image appears sharp to me.

So you are shooting wide open at maximum zoom, and have VR turned on with a shutter speed of 1/2000.

Step back from maximum zoom by maybe 10% or a little more. Stop down at least 1 fstop. And for any shutter speed over perhaps 1/500 or 1/750 turn VR off.

And get closer! Don't try to crop other than perhaps from the 3:2 aspect ratio to a 5:4 aspect ratio.

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Jan 11, 2015 12:28:41   #
rook2c4 Loc: Philadelphia, PA USA
 
High ISO settings, triggering more aggressive noise reduction, can also obliterate the fine details.

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Jan 11, 2015 12:31:15   #
Smokey66 Loc: Hanover, ON, CA
 
MT Shooter wrote:
Lastly, newer camera offer AF Fine Tuning so you can adjust the sharpness of the cameras AF system to the lens, sadly your D200 is too old to offer this feature, but on cameras that have it available, it is VERY helpful in acquiring accurate autofocus.
Good luck.


Does the Nikon D610 offer AF Fine Tuning?

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