A photographic challenge with a question (Page 4): I'd like to suggest that your students create the pots in PS using their own design or shoot the pots and change them in PS. A...

ozmerelda Loc: Osprey, FL

treadwl wrote:

I am teaching a photo class to high school student... (show quote)

I'd like to suggest that your students create the pots in PS using their own design or shoot the pots and change them in PS.
A humorous creation would be to make a merry jauna pot
with a luscious marijuana plant.

They could make Cambridge pots with hierarchal plants.

Of course on a shelf!
Limited only by imagination!
Where are the cartoonists?

Or not!

OZ

farnsworth52 Loc: W. Pa.

Corel Painter does a nice job rendering photos to look like paintings. This takes awhile to learn but will give the judges something to think about.I did these with Corel Painter X and a Wacom tablet. My only queation is are they going to want to pay the price ,even for student versions of software to do this, just to please a few single minded judges. Is the school going to provide the computers software and tools needed to do this. I suspect the students are just going to have to learn to use some imagination and do the best with what they have---CAMERAS.

treadwl Loc: South Florida

Ralloh wrote:

My question is, why are these painters being allowed to judge photos if this is their attitude? I would be raising hell with someone in charge about it. It doesn't seem too fair to the students.

I am the one raising "hell". However, as I have stated. My school has bought into the Cambridge program because the state of Florida gives the administration points on the school grade and money for offering college level classes on a high school campus. We have to accept the Cambridge program as it is. We are just a single school. No one cares what we think.
I have talked to other schools and their teachers who offer this program. All are frustrated. But we get no input. I agree it is not fair to the students---but no one listens to our complaints. I have written Cambridge numerous times and they do not even answer the letters, or accept the phone call

treadwl Loc: South Florida

mvetrano2 wrote:

Abstract tulips!

Sorry---no shelf and no pot. No credit.

Thanks for the submission.

treadwl Loc: South Florida

ole sarg wrote:

All one does with a camera is point and shoot

The difference between a photographer and an artist is that a artist interprets reality while a photographer attempts to capture it

I agree, but we can do it in a creative manner.

treadwl Loc: South Florida

hdg wrote:

I don't have time to take this challenge right now... (show quote)

Thank very much. You have offered some ideas that sound like they would work. Care to join the class?? Thanks again.

treadwl Loc: South Florida

ChrisCat wrote:

Here's a before and after ...

Interesting idea...What to do with the pot and the shelf??

treadwl Loc: South Florida

gligh66124 wrote:

Here is an old photo of mine. I did quite a bit of post-processing.

Nice photo.

treadwl Loc: South Florida

farnsworth52 wrote:

Corel Painter does a nice job rendering photos to ... (show quote)

We do have computers in class and have the accepted computer program Photoshop. We are trying to do something with the tools within the program.

filerunner Loc: Michigan

Can it be any kind of shelf?

Jgh Loc: On the Road

On the face of it, the result would be a still life. That's okay, as some painters have made very beautiful such paintings. But not my favorite.

I would start with trying to expand the definition of the assignment, always within the set parameters, of course.

A plant? What kind of plant? an orchid or a sequoia? I probably wouldn't include the possibility of a manufacturing plant as that is clearly not within the spirit of things.

A shelf? What kind of shelf? a window sill or a plant shelf? or a precipice?

And I would go on from these, until I had redefined the assignment to allow more creativity. Actually, it sounds like a lot of fun and, as soon as my camera is back from the shop, I'll give it a try.

amyinsparta Loc: White county, TN

Well, if painters are evaluating, it seems they would certainly look at the photos from that perspective. So give them what they want-a photo that looks like a painting.

It's a shame that the entire course rests on the personal prejudices of those who know little to nothing about photography, and it is especially shameful that one photo evaluation determines whether one passes or fails.

Such is the state of our educational system, here, England, or wherever.

James R. Kyle Loc: Saint Louis, Missouri (A Suburb of Ferguson)

""here is the topic--- good luck

"In 8x10 (either vertical or horizontal) display the following:
"A potted plant or plants sitting on a shelf."

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Well....

Seems "Simple Enough".... NOT!

AND.. In That "Cambridge" Will Not Give A Direct Answer to You seems "Simple Enough" as well... It appears that "Cambridge" (in their rather snooty way) is, in all due respect, Telling you to keep it simple. And in that they are not giving a well understood answer to your questions is below reason. THIS is a dilemma.

Do "they" wish your students to succeed in this "project"? Or are "they" just "being British" about this? ....

I would let your students go "Hog Wild" with the project. The young minds are at this stage of life are very "fertile" and most are really trying to "find them-selves" in Life. They can try ANYTHING. ""A potted plant or plants sitting on a shelf.""

Give it to them... Tell them to OPEN the "throttle" FULL and Anything Goes.

I have let my students do this on rather "Restricted" areas of composition with rather surprising results. I (personally) do not care for Way Out There stuff - BUT.... It IS theirs... It is THEIR art. And I respect that. "Cambridge" (on the other hand).. Well... They are Brits... ;-)

The younger students I have had in my classes and some older adults have really created good things with restricted guidelines... The Younger Ones just run free with it - Where the older a bit more timid, tend to "hold back".

"A potted plant or plants sitting on a shelf."

Not simple to deal with at all... I am going to give this one a try... Not any of my students .. Just Me... I like a challenge.

I shall get back to you (and others here) with what I might do... We shall see.

For just now... "Damn!!!! Man the torpedoes --- Full Speed Ahead."

"Hail Britannia -- Britannia Rules The Waves." = PHUZZZT!!

(Phuzzzt! = The sounds one makes when sticking their tongue between the lips, slightly out held my ones teeth and expelling air from the mouth out through the lips. Also Spelled RAZZ in cartoons.)

:-P

James R. Kyle Loc: Saint Louis, Missouri (A Suburb of Ferguson)

amyinsparta wrote:

Well, if painters are evaluating, it seems they would certainly look at the photos from that perspective. So give them what they want-a photo that looks like a painting.

It's a shame that the entire course rests on the personal prejudices of those who know little to nothing about photography, and it is especially shameful that one photo evaluation determines whether one passes or fails.

Such is the state of our educational system, here, England, or wherever.

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Very True....

PHOTOGRAPHY IS ART.

(God Damn it.)

By the "Blood" and sweat and tears, of Stieglitz - Strand - Adams - Weston - and Others... They pushed Photography as ART, It's Own Art. To make a PHOTOGRAPH appear as a "painting" is (in my book) Totally defeating.

DOWN WITH "Pictorialisum" - Apply "Straight Photography" and edit your feelings into the Tonal Qualities of the PRINT.

Embrace the REALITY. "The Dignity of the Simple Glossy Print."

Rich1939 Loc: Pike County Penna.

I've been lurking here at UHH for a while but this subject spurred me to respond. I think I understand what you are looking for and did a quick "creation" to try and illustrate what I think meets the criteria.

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