More Grandchild Photos
Jan 1, 2015 15:45:28 #
She came to visit and was kind enough to let Paw-Paw practice with his camera "stuff". C&C always welcomed.
Jan 1, 2015 17:29:34 #
#3 is my favorite.
She didn't look like she was into it in 1 & 2 and appears to be very stiff.
She didn't look like she was into it in 1 & 2 and appears to be very stiff.
Jan 1, 2015 17:38:22 #
Nicely done. About the only thing I would do is burn down her legs in that last one to make them darker than her face. As it is, they demand as much attention as the face when we want them to just kinda be there in the background.
As a side note, look at the lighting in the first and second. She is broad lit in the first and short lit in the second. Notice that the short lit image is more flattering to her face. Both can work, but for most people, and certainly females, short lighting i almost always the most attractive.
As a side note, look at the lighting in the first and second. She is broad lit in the first and short lit in the second. Notice that the short lit image is more flattering to her face. Both can work, but for most people, and certainly females, short lighting i almost always the most attractive.
Jan 1, 2015 17:53:35 #
hlmichel wrote:
#3 is my favorite.
She didn't look like she was into it in 1 & 2 and appears to be very stiff.
She didn't look like she was into it in 1 & 2 and appears to be very stiff.
Thanks. The first 2 were early shots just using the available window light and a reflector. I asked for the different expressions. She is always very cooperative, and she normally enjoys the time we spend with the camera.
Jan 1, 2015 18:08:56 #
CaptainC wrote:
Nicely done. About the only thing I would do is bu... (show quote)
Thanks, Cliff. The last one was reworked in PP. In the first version I did burn down the legs, but also burned the shoes to the point that they disappeared. It made it look as though her legs just stopped at the ankles. I apparently spent so much effort making the shoes visible in the re-work that I ignored the legs.
And yes, short light flatters her face. But for some odd reason, I have trouble finding fault with this young lady's appearance in any light. It's good to have someone critique her photos with an unbiased eye. :)
Jan 1, 2015 18:19:01 #
Rick36203 wrote:
Thanks, Cliff. The last one was reworked in PP. I... (show quote)
One of the issues of asking for C&C of image containing family members is that we (the photographers) are too invested in the person and any critique is viewed (quite subconsciously) as critique of that person and not the technical issues of the photograph.
I hope you realized that suggesting one light pattern was more flattering than another has ZERO to do with the subject.
Jan 1, 2015 18:35:18 #
CaptainC wrote:
One of the issues of asking for C&C of image containing family members is that we (the photographers) are too invested in the person and any critique is viewed (quite subconsciously) as critique of that person and not the technical issues of the photograph.
I hope you realized that suggesting one light pattern was more flattering than another has ZERO to do with the subject.
I hope you realized that suggesting one light pattern was more flattering than another has ZERO to do with the subject.
Yes sir, I absolutely did understand that you were just commenting on the light in the photo. How one light pattern provides a generally more pleasing look based on the facial structure and other physical characteristics of the model. Once again, I thank you for your candid and honest thoughts. :) :)
My comment was simply an attempt to make light of my own limitations and inability to see through the model to get to the photo's technical flaws. This is a personal barrier that I am getting much better at overcoming. All is good. :)
Jan 2, 2015 02:44:42 #
CaptainC wrote:
One of the issues of asking for C&C of image containing family members is that we (the photographers) are too invested in the person and any critique is viewed (quite subconsciously) as critique of that person and not the technical issues of the photograph.
I hope you realized that suggesting one light pattern was more flattering than another has ZERO to do with the subject.
I hope you realized that suggesting one light pattern was more flattering than another has ZERO to do with the subject.
Everybody seems very proud of their grand kids and I do not normally comment because it can be very hard on the photographer I feel so take this as it meant which is one mans verdict on the photos before him.
Im not sure the light flatters in either 1 or two and your model is very stiff and does not look at at all relaxed. Number 3 needs something doing with the young ladies hand. It looks unnatural as she is.
By the time you got to number 4 it appears your model was relaxed and willing to join in with the game. Lovely natural shot of a happy kid. Legs need toning down but after that its a winner. Maybe something simple like a Multiply mode layer with a gradient mask across the photo would fuffice
Jan 2, 2015 07:16:13 #
I'm certainly not one to look to for critique on people photography, as I don't do that much of it...but you certainly have a beautiful model, and agreeing with Captain C's assessment, I think you did a overall great job!!
Jan 2, 2015 07:21:06 #
I am not here to help you with the lighting , sorry . I will leave that up to CaptainC and others. I'm not as critical when it comes to lighting . I just love looking at people photos to see if they tell a story . I like the first 3 the way they are . I like to try to figure out what they were thinking during the shot with poses like these . After all , life isn't always jolly. Thanks for sharing . Tommy
Jan 2, 2015 07:57:20 #
Rick36203 wrote:
She came to visit and was kind enough to let Paw-Paw practice with his camera "stuff". C&C always welcomed.
Rick,
I agree with Cliff, short lit is much more flattering for your Granddaughter. I did not download any of the images, but I do commend you on keeping the separation of her black clothing from the black background - nice job.
Maybe in #2 you could have tried to place a weak background light (snoot) directed on the back of her head/hair from camera left for a bit of separation from the black background, if you had it, and have a mix of ambient light from the window and snooted artificial light.
I also agree with Cliff about her legs in the last image, but understand that you were concentrating on her shoes and overlooked her legs. As I often say about my own images, hindsight is 20/20! Sometimes it is best to step back after PP'ing and see if you like it and/or notice anything that may have been overlooked or forgotten - a more objective approach the second or third time around . . . speaking from my own experiences, of course. She seemed to be quite cooperative for her Grandfather - generally, very nice.
Best Regards,
Tom
Jan 2, 2015 09:38:33 #
This cannot go unmentioned- You captured her very beautiful eyes so nicely!
Jan 2, 2015 11:20:53 #
Billyspad wrote:
Everybody seems very proud of their grand kids and... (show quote)
Thanks Billy, for taking the time to express your thoughts for improving the work.
Jan 2, 2015 11:21:20 #
rlaugh wrote:
I'm certainly not one to look to for critique on people photography, as I don't do that much of it...but you certainly have a beautiful model, and agreeing with Captain C's assessment, I think you did a overall great job!!
Thank you.
Jan 2, 2015 11:33:56 #
kubota king wrote:
I am not here to help you with the lighting , sorry . I will leave that up to CaptainC and others. I'm not as critical when it comes to lighting . I just love looking at people photos to see if they tell a story . I like the first 3 the way they are . I like to try to figure out what they were thinking during the shot with poses like these . After all , life isn't always jolly. Thanks for sharing . Tommy
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