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Jan 3, 2015 02:19:57   #
Dr.db Loc: Central Point, OR
 
I had to try for fall-ish....



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Jan 3, 2015 04:20:02   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
SoHillGuy wrote:
Dramatized.


Thanks for your contribution SoHillGuy. Dramatic indeed, without being too hyper.

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Jan 3, 2015 04:22:03   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
Dr.db wrote:
I had to try for fall-ish....


Well that's one answer to fulfil my vision lol. Saves a lot of waiting :thumbup: .

That deer's camouflage must have been good - I didn't notice him when I took the shot :) .

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Jan 4, 2015 17:27:47   #
pithydoug Loc: Catskill Mountains, NY
 
R.G. wrote:
I posted another shot of this scene after the leaves had turned and mostly fallen. This is a shot taken before autumn, so the sky isn't so much of a problem. I'll probably go back when the leaves have grown back and do a proper HDR shot. But in the meantime, before I do a re-shoot, I'd like to see what sort of potential you think this scene has.

Jpg here, DNG to follow.

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A quick stab! I brushed the side of the ditch to bring out the moss a bit. Pulled some shadows out of the ditch and then some basic clarity, vibrancy and sharpening about 30 seconds work.


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Jan 5, 2015 11:39:05   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
pithydoug wrote:
A quick stab! I brushed the side of the ditch to bring out the moss a bit. Pulled some shadows out of the ditch and then some basic clarity, vibrancy and sharpening about 30 seconds work.


Sounds like the sort of thing I'll want to try, pithydoug. And the results speak for themselves.

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Jan 5, 2015 11:49:48   #
pithydoug Loc: Catskill Mountains, NY
 
R.G. wrote:
Sounds like the sort of thing I'll want to try, pithydoug. And the results speak for themselves.


Thanks. I can remember when I shot only jpg and thought I was getting good but always felt something needed a boost. Moved to raw which in turn took me to PP'ing. A picture such as yours shows how difficult it is to get a broad tonal range just right in camera. Just a little PP'ing, and your not falsifying the shot, but making it just as you saw the scene that enticed you take the shot in the first place.

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Jan 5, 2015 12:02:04   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
pithydoug wrote:
.....Just a little PP'ing, and your not falsifying the shot, but making it just as you saw the scene that enticed you take the shot in the first place.


I'm getting fond of the expression "Nudging it towards the ideal". The end result doesn't even need to be like what you saw. If you can envisage how it would have been under ideal circumstances, you can use PP to push the shot in that direction. All perfectly legitimate IMHO.

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Jan 6, 2015 09:28:08   #
pithydoug Loc: Catskill Mountains, NY
 
R.G. wrote:
I'm getting fond of the expression "Nudging it towards the ideal". The end result doesn't even need to be like what you saw. If you can envisage how it would have been under ideal circumstances, you can use PP to push the shot in that direction. All perfectly legitimate IMHO.


Unless one has been to that spot and seen that "ideal" and just happened to chosen a bad day, I can see your point although I might not do it. If that ideal is make believe and you're fabricating a final picture you are venturing into art not photography.

I may take many pictures from the same location each with a different result. Yes one may be better but I don't force each shot to what might be the best.

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Jan 6, 2015 11:44:03   #
angela k Loc: Long Island
 
I played with it in PaintShop....


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Jan 6, 2015 12:01:09   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
angela k wrote:
I played with it in PainShop....


Thank you for your contribution Angela. This has given the lighting a vividness that I know woods can have sometimes. And emphasising the ditch by darkening it wasn't a possibility that I'd considered.

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Jan 6, 2015 12:19:39   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
pithydoug wrote:
.....If that ideal is make believe and you're fabricating a final picture you are venturing into art not photography......


We all have our own sense of propriety in issues like these. My take on these points is that I know I'm NOT going to envisage something totally unrealistic, so I'm happy to be guided by what I can envisage for the scene. To my mind it's people that deliberately go for an over-saturated, over-contrasted and over-sharpened look that are making the biggest departure from reality. And that is something I try to avoid.

Most people that do PP are guided almost constantly by what they can envisage. In fact I'd say that applies to every time they contemplate doing any type of adjustment. They'll try to envisage possibilities and outcomes. So I'd say envisaging the ideal is just an extension of that process. It all boils down to personal preference, and I'm glad I don't encumber myself with an overly restrictive sense of propriety. You may have gravitated towards a different set of sensibilities.

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Jan 6, 2015 12:30:28   #
angela k Loc: Long Island
 
R.G. wrote:
Thank you for your contribution Angela. This has given the lighting a vividness that I know woods can have sometimes. And emphasising the ditch by darkening it wasn't a possibility that I'd considered.


I'm glad you liked it R.G. If you asked me how I came to this, I couldn't tell you. Just love adding a little of this and that! Always fun to play!
:-D

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Jan 6, 2015 12:33:29   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
angela k wrote:
I'm glad you liked it R.G. If you asked me how I came to this, I couldn't tell you. Just love adding a little of this and that! Always fun to play!
:-D


Glad you enjoyed. Your approach is something that a lot of people in this section will be able to relate to :) .

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Jan 6, 2015 12:37:12   #
angela k Loc: Long Island
 
R.G. wrote:
Glad you enjoyed. Your approach is something that a lot of people in this section will be able to relate to :) .


:thumbup:

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Jan 6, 2015 13:59:02   #
pithydoug Loc: Catskill Mountains, NY
 
R.G. wrote:
We all have our own sense of propriety in issues like these. My take on these points is that I know I'm NOT going to envisage something totally unrealistic, so I'm happy to be guided by what I can envisage for the scene. To my mind it's people that deliberately go for an over-saturated, over-contrasted and over-sharpened look that are making the biggest departure from reality. And that is something I try to avoid.

Most people that do PP are guided almost constantly by what they can envisage. In fact I'd say that applies to every time they contemplate doing any type of adjustment. They'll try to envisage possibilities and outcomes. So I'd say envisaging the ideal is just an extension of that process. It all boils down to personal preference, and I'm glad I don't encumber myself with an overly restrictive sense of propriety. You may have gravitated towards a different set of sensibilities.
We all have our own sense of propriety in issues l... (show quote)


I'm with ya on this!!!

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