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Dec 21, 2014 12:03:35   #
manderson Loc: Northeast Nebraska
 
Let me know what your thoughts are on this photo please.


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Dec 21, 2014 14:39:26   #
SonyA580 Loc: FL in the winter & MN in the summer
 
Nice shot! I like the composition but the "Yellows" appear over saturated and there are some blown out highlights on the nearest cliff face on my monitor. A few spots in the sky (sensor dust?). I think with a little work it could be a great picture.

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Dec 21, 2014 16:03:26   #
mcveed Loc: Kelowna, British Columbia (between trips)
 
Nice composition but the devil is in the details. The colours don't seem true which is probably due to the HDR processing and the fact that it is in the AdobeRGB colour space. Your aperture (f5.6) does not really provide a deep enough depth of field for a photo like this. The foreground grass is soft as are the distant hills. The sky has suffered from the HDR treatment with the strange glow over the trees on the horizon and the unreal sky colour. As Sony pointed out here are several dust spots in the sky. I hope I haven't beat on you too hard. You did ask for a critique.

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Dec 21, 2014 19:17:28   #
PaulG Loc: Western Australia
 
I like it Mike. It does have a softness and distinct colour shift but perhaps that was your intention? Overall it has good depth with the receding cliffs and foreground grass bank. If you were able to shift your vantage point slightly left - to isolate the tree more from the cliffs and into the water - would be my only picky thing. Of course that might not have been possible though.

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Dec 21, 2014 19:24:35   #
Billyspad Loc: The Philippines
 
mcveed has said it all really I think you can get away with the distant hills being a little soft but maybe the front grass would selectively sharpen.
Your sky is off and I would tend to lean towards bringing the sky through from one of your bracketed images with a layer mask. That can be used also on the blown areas of the cliff. Ita great view and nice shot needing some PP work. Water treatment is just perfect with a great reflection
Contrast also could stand bumping up a little when all other slight problems are solved.

This looks like Photoshop HDR Pro image? If it is the Adobe attempt at HDR does seem to alter colors somewhat.

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Dec 21, 2014 19:57:24   #
manderson Loc: Northeast Nebraska
 
SonyA580 wrote:
Nice shot! I like the composition but the "Yellows" appear over saturated and there are some blown out highlights on the nearest cliff face on my monitor. A few spots in the sky (sensor dust?). I think with a little work it could be a great picture.


I did this as an HDR and wasn't sure if I should do something with the yellow cliffs or not. Can't believe that I missed the dust in the sky.

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Dec 21, 2014 20:00:38   #
manderson Loc: Northeast Nebraska
 
mcveed wrote:
Nice composition but the devil is in the details. The colours don't seem true which is probably due to the HDR processing and the fact that it is in the AdobeRGB colour space. Your aperture (f5.6) does not really provide a deep enough depth of field for a photo like this. The foreground grass is soft as are the distant hills. The sky has suffered from the HDR treatment with the strange glow over the trees on the horizon and the unreal sky colour. As Sony pointed out here are several dust spots in the sky. I hope I haven't beat on you too hard. You did ask for a critique.
Nice composition but the devil is in the details. ... (show quote)


I struggle with colors, I love vivid color that pops out at you. The HDR was photomatix. I don't mind the distant hills being soft as my focus is on the sunlight reflecting off the closest cliff. I don't feel too beaten up, it's why I put it here.

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Dec 21, 2014 20:02:38   #
manderson Loc: Northeast Nebraska
 
PaulG wrote:
I like it Mike. It does have a softness and distinct colour shift but perhaps that was your intention? Overall it has good depth with the receding cliffs and foreground grass bank. If you were able to shift your vantage point slightly left - to isolate the tree more from the cliffs and into the water - would be my only picky thing. Of course that might not have been possible though.


I have several different compositions of this view. I have another photo where the small tree in the foreground is a minor detail. I tried to work the view from several locations and camera orientations. Thank you for looking and offering suggestions.

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Dec 21, 2014 20:05:00   #
manderson Loc: Northeast Nebraska
 
[quote=Billyspad]mcveed has said it all really I think you can get away with the distant hills being a little soft but maybe the front grass would selectively sharpen.
Your sky is off and I would tend to lean towards bringing the sky through from one of your bracketed images with a layer mask. That can be used also on the blown areas of the cliff. Ita great view and nice shot needing some PP work. Water treatment is just perfect with a great reflection
Contrast also could stand bumping up a little when all other slight problems are solved.

This looks like Photoshop HDR Pro image? If it is the Adobe attempt at HDR does seem to alter colors somewhat.[/quot\


It is a photomatix HDR I believe. So far from what I am reading is that most of these "issues" can be fixed and that is good to know. Thanks for looking.

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Dec 21, 2014 20:18:45   #
mcveed Loc: Kelowna, British Columbia (between trips)
 
[quote=manderson][quote=Billyspad]mcveed has said it all really I think you can get away with the distant hills being a little soft but maybe the front grass would selectively sharpen.
Your sky is off and I would tend to lean towards bringing the sky through from one of your bracketed images with a layer mask. That can be used also on the blown areas of the cliff. Ita great view and nice shot needing some PP work. Water treatment is just perfect with a great reflection
Contrast also could stand bumping up a little when all other slight problems are solved.

This looks like Photoshop HDR Pro image? If it is the Adobe attempt at HDR does seem to alter colors somewhat.[/quot\


It is a photomatix HDR I believe. So far from what I am reading is that most of these "issues" can be fixed and that is good to know. Thanks for looking.[/quote]

The post processing issues can be addressed but there is little you can do about that f5.6 aperture after the fact.

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Dec 21, 2014 20:56:16   #
manderson Loc: Northeast Nebraska
 
mcveed wrote:
The post processing issues can be addressed but there is little you can do about that f5.6 aperture after the fact.


But, I can make sure I double check my aperture in the future. That to me is also fixable.

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Dec 22, 2014 07:39:22   #
tusketwedge Loc: Nova Scotia Canada
 
manderson wrote:
But, I can make sure I double check my aperture in the future. That to me is also fixable.


reading your post and answers I see you shot at f5.6 and you mentioned you focused on the first cliff. Next time try a higher f stop and make sure where your camera is focused.What I see is the main focus was on the tree.All the leaves are tack sharp and then it really falls off. Even to the left of the tree it starts to get soft amongst the grass. Also if your shooting in RGB make sure your pp is set the same. Most use sRGB because they are easy to use as the gamut is smaller than RGB. Whatever you use just make sure you have everything set the same.Makes life a whole lot easier.

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Dec 22, 2014 10:37:25   #
wthomson Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
If possible, I'd move to the left and/or higher to separate the foreground tree from the cliff. Otherwise, nice composition.

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Dec 22, 2014 19:35:14   #
manderson Loc: Northeast Nebraska
 
wthomson wrote:
If possible, I'd move to the left and/or higher to separate the foreground tree from the cliff. Otherwise, nice composition.


I have several compositions of this scene actually. I worked the area as best I could.

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