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Feb 20, 2012 11:46:36   #
Jim Plogger Loc: East Tennessee
 
I do quite a bit of flower photography adding black backgrounds. I sometimes add them in photoshop but also sometimes use a black piece of matboard behind the subject. I would like to hear about other techniques from those who enjoy this type of photography.

Japanese Anemone
Japanese Anemone...

Siberian Iris
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Cabbage Butterfly on Dahlia
Cabbage Butterfly on Dahlia...

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Feb 20, 2012 12:02:30   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
I find that black velvet will greate a "black hole" as far as lighting goes. If matte board is used, I don't always get black. Nice flower shots BTW, love the last one.

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Feb 20, 2012 13:50:32   #
Jim Plogger Loc: East Tennessee
 
GoofyNewfie wrote:
I find that black velvet will greate a "black hole" as far as lighting goes. If matte board is used, I don't always get black. Nice flower shots BTW, love the last one.


Never tried black velvet. I will give that a shot. I always shoot in RAW and when I use black mat board I adjust the black in ACR.

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Feb 20, 2012 13:55:04   #
docrob Loc: Durango, Colorado
 
JPinTenn wrote:
I do quite a bit of flower photography adding black backgrounds. I sometimes add them in photoshop but also sometimes use a black piece of matboard behind the subject. I would like to hear about other techniques from those who enjoy this type of photography.


me too - but i don't ever use artificial backgrounds. Putting black will make a flowers coloration and apparent saturation appear more vivid.

Carrying black velvet out into the field is gonna get messy.

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Feb 20, 2012 13:55:38   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
looks like what you're doing works well.
I just put that out there for those who have the problem I encounter occasionally. If you can keep the light off of the black matte board it should be close to black.

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Feb 20, 2012 13:59:01   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
docrob wrote:
JPinTenn wrote:
I do quite a bit of flower photography adding black backgrounds. I sometimes add them in photoshop but also sometimes use a black piece of matboard behind the subject. I would like to hear about other techniques from those who enjoy this type of photography.


me too - but i don't ever use artificial backgrounds. Putting black will make a flowers coloration and apparent saturation appear more vivid.

Carrying black velvet out into the field is gonna get messy.
quote=JPinTenn I do quite a bit of flower photog... (show quote)


Without a doubt!
I was thinking in terms of indoor use.
Too bad capes are out of fashion these days.
They would come in handy for this kind of thing.

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Feb 20, 2012 14:04:00   #
Jim Plogger Loc: East Tennessee
 
GoofyNewfie wrote:
looks like what you're doing works well.
I just put that out there for those who have the problem I encounter occasionally. If you can keep the light off of the black matte board it should be close to black.


When I use black mat board I use a large umbrella to block bright light. That works really well but some adjustment is still required in ACR.

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Feb 20, 2012 16:06:57   #
Bmac Loc: Long Island, NY
 
JPinTenn wrote:
I do quite a bit of flower photography adding black backgrounds. I sometimes add them in photoshop but also sometimes use a black piece of matboard behind the subject. I would like to hear about other techniques from those who enjoy this type of photography.


Pleasing sharp vivid photos. Thanks for sharing JPinTenn. 8-)

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Feb 20, 2012 16:27:16   #
jimmya Loc: Phoenix
 
JPinTenn wrote:
I do quite a bit of flower photography adding black backgrounds. I sometimes add them in photoshop but also sometimes use a black piece of matboard behind the subject. I would like to hear about other techniques from those who enjoy this type of photography.


Beautiful stuff!

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Feb 21, 2012 07:15:10   #
Gidgette Loc: Boerne,Texas
 
JPinTenn wrote:
I do quite a bit of flower photography adding black backgrounds. I sometimes add them in photoshop but also sometimes use a black piece of matboard behind the subject. I would like to hear about other techniques from those who enjoy this type of photography.


Like all your flowers, but #3 is my favorite. Thanks for sharing. It is unusual seeing a white butterfly and it really pops on that pink flower.

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Feb 21, 2012 07:23:41   #
BboH Loc: s of 2/21, Ellicott City, MD
 
Felt also works good and adds a little texture with no reflection . As mentioned, Velvet just absorbs the light striking it

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Feb 21, 2012 07:38:22   #
Wanda Krack Loc: Tennessee, USA
 
JPinTenn, nice flowers! The first one is my favorite. I also use colors behind flowers sometimes, especially something like iris, that can stand alone. I have used all colors (poster boards), but white is probably my favorite. When hiking, I have used the cover to my reflector/diffuser (black or white, gold or silver). I find when shooting individual blossoms it sometimes helps to have a background different than the surroundings. Another place I have used 'artificial' backgrounds is in greenhouses. Nurseries are wonderful places to shoot blooming flowers in the early spring time. But, it doesn't bode well with me to have a busy background, and sometimes even clutter, when the blossom is so beautiful. Green houses are wonderful places to catch flowers in good, diffused lighting. So, when I go to the greenhouse to take pictures, I make sure I have something that I can stand up behind the flower, and usually have both black and white, and will use. depending on the color of the blossom and what's behind it. I take either poster board or the tri-fold board and change out the color with fabric. Dark green velvet also works well as a background for wild flowers when hiking. But, since I carry my medium sized diffuser with me when hiking, it's always there to use if needed.

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Feb 21, 2012 07:48:50   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
Nice photos.

Here is how I create a black background even in bright sunlight!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEhaWtcdWdc

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Feb 21, 2012 08:45:11   #
thefunxtr Loc: Atlanta
 
JPinTenn wrote:
I do quite a bit of flower photography adding black backgrounds. I sometimes add them in photoshop but also sometimes use a black piece of matboard behind the subject. I would like to hear about other techniques from those who enjoy this type of photography.


Hi JP ... I once took a set of about 20 pics of lilies in bright sunshine. Two out of the set had a perfectly black background (no velvet, flash, etc. used) even though very similar settings were used for all exposures. I REALLY wish I could figure out what "accidentally" happened so I could reproduce the effect without having to carry extra stuff. With your permission, I would like to post a couple of pics for comparison to see if anyone has any thoughts on how this happened.

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Feb 21, 2012 08:45:29   #
jimberton Loc: Michigan's Upper Peninsula
 
rpavich wrote:
Nice photos.

Here is how I create a black background even in bright sunlight!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEhaWtcdWdc


that is one of my favorite videos!!! he is awesome!!!

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