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Correcting Full-Moon Deer Eyes
Feb 20, 2012 01:39:41   #
Camerahand Loc: Huntsville, Tennessee
 
When I photograph animals at night, I end up with those animals (deer, raccons, etc.) having "full-moon" eyes. Sometimes I have pretty good luck at correcting them, but most of the time the eyes will not look real at all.

I usually have more trouble with the deer. Their eyes are so large. I have tried to darken them with the air brush/paint brush in Photoshop and I have tried "selecting" the bright areas and darkening them by using "brightness/contrast" and/or "levels". The catch light is a bugger to get placed correctly, too. The photos will sometimes look pretty decent until they are enlarged to where the details show.

If anyone has had some experience in correcting this, I would appreciate any suggestions that you could offer.

I am posting two photographs. The first one is a section of the original photo. The second is a section of the edited version. I will post the full size sections so you can download them for a closer look.

Please don't judge me on the overall quality because they really are poor photos. The edited version has been sharpened, lightened and ,well, just edited all to heck.

Burton

Section of the original photo
Section of the original photo...

Section of the edited photo
Section of the edited photo...

Edited Photo (full size)
Edited Photo (full size)...

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Feb 20, 2012 01:55:45   #
Munky Loc: New York City
 
Have you considered cutting out a pair of deer eyes (in photoshop from a picture of course, not literally) from a shot taken during the day and pasting it over the eyes of this pic. Matching the exposure would be easy...getting similar angled shots probably not as easy but I think it could work.

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Feb 20, 2012 02:26:54   #
Camerahand Loc: Huntsville, Tennessee
 
Munky wrote:
Have you considered cutting out a pair of deer eyes (in photoshop from a picture of course, not literally) from a shot taken during the day and pasting it over the eyes of this pic. Matching the exposure would be easy...getting similar angled shots probably not as easy but I think it could work.


That's a very good suggestion, Munky! I would say I have enough photos that I could find a matching pair. They could always be sized to fit. Thank you. ---- Burton

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Feb 21, 2012 06:44:34   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Camerahand wrote:
When I photograph animals at night, I end up with those animals (deer, raccons, etc.) having "full-moon" eyes. Sometimes I have pretty good luck at correcting them, but most of the time the eyes will not look real at all.

I have the same problem with my dogs. How about moving the flash farther away from the camera? With the distances involved, that might not help.

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Feb 21, 2012 06:47:58   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Camerahand wrote:
When I photograph animals at night, I end up with those animals (deer, raccons, etc.) having "full-moon" eyes. Sometimes I have pretty good luck at correcting them, but most of the time the eyes will not look real at all.

I have the same problem with my dogs. How about moving the flash farther away from the camera? With the distances involved, that might not help.


How about moving the flash OFF of the camera?

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Feb 21, 2012 14:57:27   #
coco1964 Loc: Winsted Mn
 
I gave it a shot and in the short time I had to work on it this is what I came up with. Looks like PS may be the answer but I can't help you there...........



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Feb 21, 2012 14:59:51   #
Nikonian72 Loc: Chico CA
 
coco1964 wrote:
I gave it a shot and in the short time I had to work on it this is what I came up with...............
None of these fixes, so far, correct the green eye-liner. (color bleed)

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Feb 21, 2012 15:22:59   #
Bekkie Loc: Ohio, USA
 
To correct the green eyeliner in Photoshop,

-make a copy layer (CTRL + J)
-use the Hue/Sat (CTRL + U)
-click where it says "Master" a drop down menu appears
-choose the greens and slide the desaturation slider to the left
-also choose cyan and do the same thing.

When blending in the eyes, using the blur tool around the pasted eyeball. I also used the burn tool to blend it in with the rest of the deer. Don't forget to flatten your image and save.

Hope this helps.

This was a 30 second edit.

http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n585/BekkieHarper/1329854267978-1329719981353_img_0170_003copy.jpg

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Feb 22, 2012 02:16:42   #
Camerahand Loc: Huntsville, Tennessee
 
rpavich wrote:
jerryc41 wrote:
Camerahand wrote:
When I photograph animals at night, I end up with those animals (deer, raccons, etc.) having "full-moon" eyes. Sometimes I have pretty good luck at correcting them, but most of the time the eyes will not look real at all.

I have the same problem with my dogs. How about moving the flash farther away from the camera? With the distances involved, that might not help.


How about moving the flash OFF of the camera?


I'm making plans to try that. The on-camera flash really isn't powerful enough for the distance that I'm shooting, so I plan to dig out one of my old Vivitars and mount it (if it still works) off to the side about half way to the deer and rig up some way to trigger it. I have a Wein hot shoe slave, but if I trigger it with the on-camera flash, I will have the same problem I have now. More light but still moony-eyed deer.

I've been shooting in MANUAL at the max ISO, wide open, and even that wouldn't give enough light without having to use Photoshop. However, that little bit of show on the ground seemed to lighten things up a bit.

Thanks for your time and suggestions.

Burton

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Feb 22, 2012 02:21:21   #
Camerahand Loc: Huntsville, Tennessee
 
coco1964 wrote:
I gave it a shot and in the short time I had to work on it this is what I came up with. Looks like PS may be the answer but I can't help you there...........


Thanks, Coco, for the edit. Now THAT looks more like deer eyes. They look more glossy than the original. My attempt looked terribly dull and flat.

Burton

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Feb 22, 2012 02:31:25   #
Camerahand Loc: Huntsville, Tennessee
 
Bekkie wrote:
To correct the green eyeliner in Photoshop,

-make a copy layer (CTRL + J)
-use the Hue/Sat (CTRL + U)
-click where it says "Master" a drop down menu appears
-choose the greens and slide the desaturation slider to the left
-also choose cyan and do the same thing.

When blending in the eyes, using the blur tool around the pasted eyeball. I also used the burn tool to blend it in with the rest of the deer. Don't forget to flatten your image and save.

Hope this helps.

This was a 30 second edit.

http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n585/BekkieHarper/1329854267978-1329719981353_img_0170_003copy.jpg
To correct the green eyeliner in Photoshop, br b... (show quote)


Bekkie!!! Thank you! No more green-eyed monster! I have your steps saved and will put them to use on my other photos. Thanks again.

Burton

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Feb 22, 2012 02:59:18   #
Nikonian72 Loc: Chico CA
 
Bekkie wrote:
To correct the green eyeliner in Photoshop,
-make a copy layer (CTRL + J)
-use the Hue/Sat (CTRL + U)
-click where it says "Master" a drop down menu appears
-choose the greens and slide the desaturation slider to the left
-also choose cyan and do the same thing.
When blending in the eyes, using the blur tool around the pasted eyeball. I also used the burn tool to blend it in with the rest of the deer. Don't forget to flatten your image and save.
Hope this helps. This was a 30 second edit.
To correct the green eyeliner in Photoshop, br -m... (show quote)
Not too shabby!

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Feb 22, 2012 04:01:36   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
Camerahand wrote:
rpavich wrote:
jerryc41 wrote:
Camerahand wrote:
When I photograph animals at night, I end up with those animals (deer, raccons, etc.) having "full-moon" eyes. Sometimes I have pretty good luck at correcting them, but most of the time the eyes will not look real at all.

I have the same problem with my dogs. How about moving the flash farther away from the camera? With the distances involved, that might not help.


How about moving the flash OFF of the camera?


I'm making plans to try that. The on-camera flash really isn't powerful enough for the distance that I'm shooting, so I plan to dig out one of my old Vivitars and mount it (if it still works) off to the side about half way to the deer and rig up some way to trigger it. I have a Wein hot shoe slave, but if I trigger it with the on-camera flash, I will have the same problem I have now. More light but still moony-eyed deer.

I've been shooting in MANUAL at the max ISO, wide open, and even that wouldn't give enough light without having to use Photoshop. However, that little bit of show on the ground seemed to lighten things up a bit.

Thanks for your time and suggestions.

Burton
quote=rpavich quote=jerryc41 quote=Camerahand W... (show quote)


You could trigger it with cheap ebay wireless triggers....25.00 a set. (or even less sometimes.)

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Feb 22, 2012 04:35:38   #
Camerahand Loc: Huntsville, Tennessee
 
rpavich wrote:
Camerahand wrote:
rpavich wrote:
jerryc41 wrote:
Camerahand wrote:
When I photograph animals at night, I end up with those animals (deer, raccons, etc.) having "full-moon" eyes. Sometimes I have pretty good luck at correcting them, but most of the time the eyes will not look real at all.

I have the same problem with my dogs. How about moving the flash farther away from the camera? With the distances involved, that might not help.


How about moving the flash OFF of the camera?


I'm making plans to try that. The on-camera flash really isn't powerful enough for the distance that I'm shooting, so I plan to dig out one of my old Vivitars and mount it (if it still works) off to the side about half way to the deer and rig up some way to trigger it. I have a Wein hot shoe slave, but if I trigger it with the on-camera flash, I will have the same problem I have now. More light but still moony-eyed deer.

I've been shooting in MANUAL at the max ISO, wide open, and even that wouldn't give enough light without having to use Photoshop. However, that little bit of show on the ground seemed to lighten things up a bit.

Thanks for your time and suggestions.

Burton
quote=rpavich quote=jerryc41 quote=Camerahand W... (show quote)


You could trigger it with cheap ebay wireless triggers....25.00 a set. (or even less sometimes.)
quote=Camerahand quote=rpavich quote=jerryc41 ... (show quote)


I'll be sure to check that out. Sounds very reasonable. Thanks.

Burton

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