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Dec 1, 2014 10:37:42   #
SoHillGuy Loc: Washington
 
So many photographers are saying that the Canon 7D M II is for action shots and not scenery. IMO I feel this statement is without merit.

I find that again IMO the camera as my former Canon 30D takes very good scenic's.

Are they giving an opinion on what the camera is capable of or just that it is promoted as a camera for action photographers?

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Dec 1, 2014 10:43:40   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
Clearly the 7DII can take landscape shots. However, it has been designed to excel at action. A Corvette may be built to excel at runnig down the highway at high speed, but is still looks great at 10mph pulling up to the front of your house.

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Dec 1, 2014 13:31:54   #
Chris F. Loc: San Francisco
 
Hi SoHillGuy, I have made a few comments on the same, but do not mean to imply they 7DII will not take scenery shots. I just prefer my 5DIII for scenery and 7DI and II for motion shots. Conversely, the 5DIII can also take motion shots as well, and quite nicely, just not at 10 fps. Both can do both! :) :)

Chris

SoHillGuy wrote:
So many photographers are saying that the Canon 7D M II is for action shots and not scenery. IMO I feel this statement is without merit.

I find that again IMO the camera as my former Canon 30D takes very good scenic's.

Are they giving an opinion on what the camera is capable of or just that it is promoted as a camera for action photographers?


:) :)

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Dec 1, 2014 13:39:07   #
LFingar Loc: Claverack, NY
 
SoHillGuy wrote:
So many photographers are saying that the Canon 7D M II is for action shots and not scenery. IMO I feel this statement is without merit.

I find that again IMO the camera as my former Canon 30D takes very good scenic's.

Are they giving an opinion on what the camera is capable of or just that it is promoted as a camera for action photographers?


It can take as good scenic shots as any other APS-C body, and better then many considering its improved high ISO performance. It's just that it was designed to excel at action shots, just as my 6D was designed to excel at scenic shots but can still take action shots although that is not its strong point.

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Dec 1, 2014 13:47:48   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
SoHillGuy wrote:
So many photographers are saying that the Canon 7D M II is for action shots and not scenery. IMO I feel this statement is without merit.

I find that again IMO the camera as my former Canon 30D takes very good scenic's.

Are they giving an opinion on what the camera is capable of or just that it is promoted as a camera for action photographers?


I think that you make a good point, I really wanted to upgrade to a 7D Mark II but found a brand spanking new 6D for about half of what they are asking for the new 7D so I went with the 6D.... If the pricing had been the same I would have bought the 7D without so much as a second thought.

Here is a great video by Zack Arias who discusses the issue.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHYidejT3KY

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Dec 2, 2014 07:14:20   #
Peter from NH Loc: Dublin NH
 
This is a fantastic, if highly technical article, on the 7D Mark 2 and its sensor by a guy who does night sky and nature photography. Very high on the 7D Mark 2.

http://www.clarkvision.com/reviews/evaluation-canon-7dii/

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Dec 2, 2014 10:34:15   #
Peekayoh Loc: UK
 
SoHillGuy wrote:
So many photographers are saying that the Canon 7D M II is for action shots and not scenery. IMO I feel this statement is without merit. .......
Well, you're wrong to dismiss what's being said. That's not to say you can't take a Landscape shot with the 7D, just that it's not optimal.

For Landscapes you want lots of detail and good performance at low ISOs so , if you were a Landscape enthusiast, you might choose the Sony A7r in preference to the 7D MkII, it's a little more expensive but not much. For starters it has 36Mpix for better detail and at ISO100, the A7r has a S/N ratio of 45.2dB and a DR of 14.07EV compared to the 39.9dB and 11.78EV of the Canon. That's a big advantage that no "Landscaper" would ignore.

The A7r is however, not much use for action shots; yes, I can use the Sony PDAF adapter which makes it more usable but it will never match the 7D MkII for action shots. As usual, it's horses for courses.

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Dec 3, 2014 11:12:38   #
Stinson222 Loc: White Bear lake, MN
 
Hi,, I agree that the 7D Mark II is aimed at the action photographer, sports, wildlife, airshows, etc, but I belive it is also a GREAT landscape camera
I got mine about a week ago, and I am thrilled with the high ISO performance so far.
This shot is hand held,, obviously a night shot,,
16-35 L lens ,, which is not Stabilized..

At the price,, it seems like a great camera,,
there are plenty of great deals out there on 6D as well if you prefer full frame at this point,, as for me, I am going to wait until they upgrade to the next generation of full frame cameras..


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Dec 3, 2014 11:17:17   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
Stinson222 wrote:

This shot is hand held,, obviously a night shot,,
16-35 L lens ,, which is not Stabilized..


Love that shot!

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Dec 9, 2014 09:25:37   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
This analysis is not going to settle anything, but it is amusing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJb5Cjdw3KA

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Dec 13, 2014 18:15:42   #
SoHillGuy Loc: Washington
 
Thanks for all the comments. The delayed answer was due to the computer being down for 12 days.

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Dec 13, 2014 18:31:22   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
SoHillGuy wrote:
So many photographers are saying that the Canon 7D M II is for action shots and not scenery. IMO I feel this statement is without merit.

I find that again IMO the camera as my former Canon 30D takes very good scenic's.

Are they giving an opinion on what the camera is capable of or just that it is promoted as a camera for action photographers?


SHG, clearly the 7ll is the best Canon crop sensor landscape camera made. Though that is not the strength of it's design. The point being that ANY camera will take landscape , but no other crop camera made will do what the 7ll is capable of doing with action. Yes, there are the rumors about the Sony's and Samsungs, but I've not seen any shots yet. But the 7ll is a pretty expensive crop landscape camera. :thumbup:
SS

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Dec 13, 2014 20:33:22   #
SoHillGuy Loc: Washington
 
SharpShooter wrote:
SHG, clearly the 7ll is the best Canon crop sensor landscape camera made. Though that is not the strength of it's design. The point being that ANY camera will take landscape , but no other crop camera made will do what the 7ll is capable of doing with action. Yes, there are the rumors about the Sony's and Samsungs, but I've not seen any shots yet. But the 7ll is a pretty expensive crop landscape camera. :thumbup:
SS


:lol:

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Dec 13, 2014 23:33:25   #
CHOLLY Loc: THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE!
 
Peekayoh wrote:
Well, you're wrong to dismiss what's being said. That's not to say you can't take a Landscape shot with the 7D, just that it's not optimal.

For Landscapes you want lots of detail and good performance at low ISOs so , if you were a Landscape enthusiast, you might choose the Sony A7r in preference to the 7D MkII, it's a little more expensive but not much. For starters it has 36Mpix for better detail and at ISO100, the A7r has a S/N ratio of 45.2dB and a DR of 14.07EV compared to the 39.9dB and 11.78EV of the Canon. That's a big advantage that no "Landscaper" would ignore.

The A7r is however, not much use for action shots; yes, I can use the Sony PDAF adapter which makes it more usable but it will never match the 7D MkII for action shots. As usual, it's horses for courses.
Well, you're wrong to dismiss what's being said. T... (show quote)


^^^This is pretty good. :thumbup:

Let me add that you can buy a brand new A77mkII with a battery grip for HALF the price of the 7DII that will literally blow it's doors off in EVERY category; landscape AND sports. ;)

Did I mention that the A77mkII with a grip is HALF the price of the ridiculously overhyped 7DII? :lol:

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Dec 14, 2014 04:22:54   #
Peekayoh Loc: UK
 
Actually, Cholly makes a good point; certainly I'd prefer the extra MPix and DR at low ISOs of the Sony for Landscapes and it makes the Canon look way overpriced.

When it comes to predictive AF, the Canon may well have the advantage although the Sony has excellent Object Tracking. I'm not sure which is better, it may come down to the particular circumstances as to which does the better job.

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