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Dec 1, 2014 05:38:22   #
Tracy B. Loc: Indiana
 
I want a 5d mark iii full frame camera (Canon). I currently have a T4i. I have lenses that will work with a full frame: 100mm f2.8L, 40mm f2.8 pancake, and I would purchase a bundle with a 24-70. I will keep my T4i. I was looking at one Saturday and this man, a professional photographer told me not to get that one. That only if I make money with photography should I purchase that one. I should just stick with a rebel. Would I be making a mistake purchasing this camera or waiting for the 5d mark iv? I guess this gentleman kind of took the wind out of my sail. I know about the 6d, but liked the features on the 5d mark iii. Just so you know, I'm only interested in Canon because of my glass.

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Dec 1, 2014 05:52:18   #
Camerabuff Loc: Liverpool UK
 
Don't let anyone stop you getting what you want. I made that mistake years ago and still regret it. Now if I have the cash and I want a new camera I just get it.

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Dec 1, 2014 05:53:51   #
gwong1 Loc: Tampa, FL
 
Tracy, It depends on what you want as a photographer. As you know, it is an expensive hobby and as such, most of us are constantly purchasing new equipment and gadgets. What do you do with your images and what type of photographer are you? If you are selling your images, perhaps upgrade, the 5d MkIII is a commercial grade camera and expensive. Does the T4i meet your needs? What does it not do that you need to upgrade? Here is a link for upgrading your DSLR. http://www.canon5dtips.com/the-basics/upgrade-dslr-upgrade-lens/
I own the 7D and T3i and am very pleased with what I have, even though the 7D MkII is out there, I am staying with what I have, as image quality, etc. meets my needs. Here is a link to the DP Review of the camera. Good Luck! Gary http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canon-eos-5d-mark-iii
TracyT4i wrote:
I want a 5d mark iii full frame camera (Canon). I currently have a T4i. I have lenses that will work with a full frame: 100mm f2.8L, 40mm f2.8 pancake, and I would purchase a bundle with a 24-70. I will keep my T4i. I was looking at one Saturday and this man, a professional photographer told me not to get that one. That only if I make money with photography should I purchase that one. I should just stick with a rebel. Would I be making a mistake purchasing this camera or waiting for the 5d mark iv? I guess this gentleman kind of took the wind out of my sail. I know about the 6d, but liked the features on the 5d mark iii. Just so you know, I'm only interested in Canon because of my glass.
I want a 5d mark iii full frame camera (Canon). I ... (show quote)

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Dec 1, 2014 05:58:58   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
TracyT4i wrote:
I want a 5d mark iii full frame camera (Canon). I currently have a T4i. I have lenses that will work with a full frame: 100mm f2.8L, 40mm f2.8 pancake, and I would purchase a bundle with a 24-70. I will keep my T4i. I was looking at one Saturday and this man, a professional photographer told me not to get that one. That only if I make money with photography should I purchase that one. I should just stick with a rebel. Would I be making a mistake purchasing this camera or waiting for the 5d mark iv? I guess this gentleman kind of took the wind out of my sail. I know about the 6d, but liked the features on the 5d mark iii. Just so you know, I'm only interested in Canon because of my glass.
I want a 5d mark iii full frame camera (Canon). I ... (show quote)


I don't get the title, "nonprofessional purchase". The 5d... cameras are pro cameras. Yes, those are good lenses for a full frame camera. Actually a bit weird for a CF body like a T4i. I have no idea why he dis swayed you from a 5d Mark III if you have the money for one. Unless he knows something about Canon's next releases that is significant. Or may be he thinks erroneously FF is only for pros. I am sure you'll get a lot of feedback from Canon fans. Do you need a 5D mk III to advance in your photo skills? No.

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Dec 1, 2014 05:59:58   #
1stJedi Loc: Southern Orange County
 
So simply jibe onto a new course and put the wind back in your sails. The 5d mark III is a terrific camera and since you already have some very nice lenses, you should be able to be taking some wonderful photos very quickly.

There is a bit of a learning curve; both Canon and Youtube have tutorials available to ease the transition. Remember, because the 5d is a full frame camera you will no longer have the crop factor you are used to which will result in your images seeming smaller than what you may have become accustomed to seeing. You can compensate by simply moving a bit closer to your subjects. It is important to take care in framing your photos, and in your composition since what you see all the way to the very edge of your view finder will be included in the captured image.

It is sad if we let someone else steal our dreams, it is tragic if we steal them from ourselves -- go pick up your new 5D mk III and have a GRAND time with it. You won't be disappointed.

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Dec 1, 2014 06:14:44   #
Tracy B. Loc: Indiana
 
gwong1 wrote:
Tracy, It depends on what you want as a photographer. As you know, it is an expensive hobby and as such, most of us are constantly purchasing new equipment and gadgets. What do you do with your images and what type of photographer are you? If you are selling your images, perhaps upgrade, the 5d MkIII is a commercial grade camera and expensive. Does the T4i meet your needs? What does it not do that you need to upgrade? Here is a link for upgrading your DSLR. http://www.canon5dtips.com/the-basics/upgrade-dslr-upgrade-lens/
I own the 7D and T3i and am very pleased with what I have, even though the 7D MkII is out there, I am staying with what I have, as image quality, etc. meets my needs. Here is a link to the DP Review of the camera. Good Luck! Gary http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canon-eos-5d-mark-iii
Tracy, It depends on what you want as a photograph... (show quote)


Thanks, that article was helpful.

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Dec 1, 2014 06:20:35   #
Tracy B. Loc: Indiana
 
lamiaceae wrote:
I don't get the title, "nonprofessional purchase". The 5d... cameras are pro cameras. Yes, those are good lenses for a full frame camera. Actually a bit weird for a CF body like a T4i. I have no idea why he dis swayed you from a 5d Mark III if you have the money for one. Unless he knows something about Canon's next releases that is significant. Or may be he thinks erroneously FF is only for pros. I am sure you'll get a lot of feedback from Canon fans. Do you need a 5D mk III to advance in your photo skills? No.
I don't get the title, "nonprofessional purch... (show quote)


What I meant by " nonprofessional" is "I'm" a nonprofessional. Also, I've done my research, and my lenses aren't "weird" for my crop body. I know the 1.6 factor. You can look it up. Many photographers use my lenses on crop bodies.

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Dec 1, 2014 06:22:18   #
Tracy B. Loc: Indiana
 
1stJedi wrote:
So simply jibe onto a new course and put the wind back in your sails. The 5d mark III is a terrific camera and since you already have some very nice lenses, you should be able to be taking some wonderful photos very quickly.

There is a bit of a learning curve and both Canon and Youtube have tutorials available to ease the transition. Remember, because the 5d is a full frame camera you will no longer have the crop factor you are used to which will result in your images seeming smaller than what you may have become accustomed to seeing. You can compensate by simply moving a bit closer to your subjects. It is important to take care in framing your photos, and in your composition since what you see all the way to the very edge of your view finder will be included in the captured image.

It is sad if we let someone else steal our dreams, it is tragic if we steal them from ourselves -- go pick up your new 5D mk III and have a GRAND time with it. You won't be disappointed.
So simply jibe onto a new course and put the wind ... (show quote)

Thanks so much. I use YouTube all the time.

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Dec 1, 2014 06:23:34   #
Tracy B. Loc: Indiana
 
Camerabuff wrote:
Don't let anyone stop you getting what you want. I made that mistake years ago and still regret it. Now if I have the cash and I want a new camera I just get it.


:D

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Dec 1, 2014 06:24:13   #
gwong1 Loc: Tampa, FL
 
Tracy, One more thing to consider, the 5D MkIII is a full sensor camera and the T4i is a crop sensor camera. Your lenses will loose focal length with the 5D MkIII. As an example, a 100mm lens on the T4i is actually a 160mm equivalent lens, and 100mm on the 5D MkIII. Perhaps you should rent one prior to buying to get a feel for it. Gary
TracyT4i wrote:
Thanks, that article was helpful.

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Dec 1, 2014 06:25:46   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
TracyT4i wrote:
Thanks, that article was helpful.


Nothing wrong with a well kept or refurbished Canon 5D Mk II. I have several friends and teachers with those, and several bought used.

If I were in the market for a Nikon FF (FX) body, I'd go for a D810, D750, or D610.

I'm still waiting for the first Pentax FF camera. Might be soon.

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Dec 1, 2014 06:26:26   #
Tracy B. Loc: Indiana
 
gwong1 wrote:
Tracy, One more thing to consider, the 5D MkIII is a full sensor camera and the T4i is a crop sensor camera. Your lenses will loose focal length with the 5D MkIII. As an example, a 100mm lens on the T4i is actually a 160mm equivalent lens, and 100mm on the 5D MkIII. Perhaps you should rent one prior to buying to get a feel for it. Gary

Yes, renting one is probably a good idea.

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Dec 1, 2014 06:52:07   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
TracyT4i wrote:
What I meant by " nonprofessional" is "I'm" a nonprofessional. Also, I've done my research, and my lenses aren't "weird" for my crop body. I know the 1.6 factor. You can look it up. Many photographers use my lenses on crop bodies.


Oh, OK. UHH'ers don't have to feel shy about being hobbyists. I'm not currently a pro, but I can have have done pro work.

I use a lot of "odd" focal length lenses on my DSLRs because I have a lot from my film days, but I still tend to use different ones on my Film vs CF bodies, not that I have too. This can confuse newer photographers but the standard set of lenses for film or today FF (FX) is usually 28mm or 35mm; 50mm, 85mm or 105mm, about 200mm. Your 40mm pancake is great for that, actually closer to the theoretical "normal" lens size of 43mm. Pentax makes similar pancakes too. But if you apply the Canon 1/1.6 factor for a CF body. 40mm/1.6 = "25mm"; 100mm/1.6 = "62.5mm". Those like I said are a bit odd. That does not mean you can't shoot CF with them. It just differs from a typical ideal CF set of 22mm, 31mm, 66mm for a Canon.

"Weird" was not meant to mean that there is any thing wrong with them, I was merely pointing out an esthetic issue of lens perspective (view angles). Us old photography ADHD coots tend to spot and dwell on fine points.

Again, get the Canon 5DmkIII if you want, I'm sure you'll love it. As you can see I know the crop factor business too well. Even for other brands of cameras. To be (overly) precise Pentax & Sony are 1.54, Nikon 1.53, Canon 1.62. Good luck on your purchase and we hope to see your "new" photographs. Peace.

:wink: :thumbup:

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Dec 1, 2014 06:56:58   #
Gifted One Loc: S. E. Idaho
 
Tracy on other issue. Your screen name has locked you in to certain body. That's the trouble with labeling. I recently had an opportunity to jump logos. I came from film with a thirty year brake. I started in dig with Cano and learned the systems on the way up. You have some good glass and by adding a mid zoom you can increase your flexibility no matter which body you are using. By being an enthusiast we break the bounds of professionalism, with it's justifications. I have friends that shoot 1DX, 5D 3, Nikon flagship and 810. I also have a professional friend that has a studio with a 5 D, the classic. Looks like new and the lens has never been off. He bought it new and it looks pristine.

If you have the means do what you want. You have a right to be wrong in anyone's eyes but your own.

I still have a problem with your screen name. perhaps the admin can change it for you. Tracy-what ever, TracydoeswhatFshewants, TracyImageMaker. J. R.

I am still trying to get my 6 D ordered.

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Dec 1, 2014 07:02:33   #
Tracy B. Loc: Indiana
 
[quote=lamiaceae]Oh, OK. UHH'ers don't have to feel shy about being hobbyists. I'm not currently a pro, but I can have have done pro work.

I use a lot of "odd" focal length lenses on my DSLRs because I have a lot from my film days, but I still tend to use different ones on my Film vs CF bodies, not that I have too. This can confuse newer photographers but the standard set of lenses for film or today FF (FX) is usually 28mm or 35mm; 50mm, 85mm or 105mm, about 200mm. Your 40mm pancake is great for that, actually closer to the theoretical "normal" lens size of 43mm. Pentax makes similar pancakes too. But if you apply the Canon 1/1.6 factor for a CF body. 40mm/1.6 = "25mm"; 100mm/
1.6 = "62.5mm". Those like I said are a bit odd. That does not mean
you can't shoot CF with them. It just differs from a typical ideal CF set
of 22mm, 31mm, 66mm for a Canon.
Actually, my 40mm is like a 64mm on a FF. And my 100mm is like a 160mm.

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