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Nov 25, 2014 05:07:21   #
Billyspad Loc: The Philippines
 
The subject is Mt Makiney which I can see from my house. This was taken at around 10 am on a hillside about 1 klm from my home.

Definitely new frontier here. Not sure I have ever produced a landscape in my life. Here is the deal. No access to wide angle lens or polarizing filters. So is it worth pursuing with just the kit lens 18-55.
Got a whole heap of PP software and can use most of it to a so so degree so enhancements not a problem.

So critique and advice please would be very welcome.

Mount Makiney
Mount Makiney...
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Nov 25, 2014 05:53:41   #
doduce Loc: Holly Springs NC
 
ABSOLUTELY worth the effort. For a first landscape, this is quite good. At the 18mm end, the kit lens IS a wide angle, so it will be good as you learn and grow. Ultimately, you may decide you don't like landscapes and don't need a different lens, but for now, there's no reason to give up--keep shooting and learning.

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Nov 25, 2014 06:18:35   #
Billyspad Loc: The Philippines
 
doduce wrote:
ABSOLUTELY worth the effort. For a first landscape, this is quite good. At the 18mm end, the kit lens IS a wide angle, so it will be good as you learn and grow. Ultimately, you may decide you don't like landscapes and don't need a different lens, but for now, there's no reason to give up--keep shooting and learning.


Thank you for the encouragement doduce. How could I have improved this?

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Nov 25, 2014 06:38:24   #
Graham Smith Loc: Cambridgeshire UK
 
Billyspad wrote:
The subject is Mt Makiney which I can see from my house. This was taken at around 10 am on a hillside about 1 klm from my home.

Definitely new frontier here. Not sure I have ever produced a landscape in my life. Here is the deal. No access to wide angle lens or polarizing filters. So is it worth pursuing with just the kit lens 18-55.
Got a whole heap of PP software and can use most of it to a so so degree so enhancements not a problem.

So critique and advice please would be very welcome.
The subject is Mt Makiney which I can see from my ... (show quote)


I think this is a very good picture, Billy. Your 18-55 is well up to the job. You asked how you could improve the shot, being so close to this subject my answer is to visit and photograph at all times of the day, in all weathers, good and bad.

Graham

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Nov 25, 2014 07:16:33   #
djtravels Loc: Georgia boy now
 
Graham hit the subject right on the head. It's not just improvement of one photograph. It's about working the subject from all aspects, points of view and different light conditions, etc. This is a very good start. JMHO

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Nov 25, 2014 08:01:52   #
Billyspad Loc: The Philippines
 
Graham Smith wrote:
I think this is a very good picture, Billy. Your 18-55 is well up to the job. You asked how you could improve the shot, being so close to this subject my answer is to visit and photograph at all times of the day, in all weathers, good and bad.

Graham


I shall follow your advice Graham simply because I know for a fact you know what you are talking about. Tropical weather is like weather on steroids so I shall think of you when its nearly 40 degrees and the sun overhead is like a blowtorch or conversely during a typhoon with the wind hitting 160 klm per hour. If ol' Billy perishes in the pursuit of excellence you Graham will be responsible lol
Thank you my friend for taking the time to look and offer advice. It is much appreciated I can assure you.

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Nov 25, 2014 08:04:37   #
Billyspad Loc: The Philippines
 
djtravels wrote:
Graham hit the subject right on the head. It's not just improvement of one photograph. It's about working the subject from all aspects, points of view and different light conditions, etc. This is a very good start. JMHO


Thank you djtravels for taking the time to look and comment on my post.
Your words of encouragement are very welcome along with your advice.

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Nov 25, 2014 08:08:46   #
Graham Smith Loc: Cambridgeshire UK
 
Billyspad wrote:
I shall follow your advice Graham simply because I know for a fact you know what you are talking about. Tropical weather is like weather on steroids so I shall think of you when its nearly 40 degrees and the sun overhead is like a blowtorch or conversely during a typhoon with the wind hitting 160 klm per hour. If ol' Billy perishes in the pursuit of excellence you Graham will be responsible lol
Thank you my friend for taking the time to look and offer advice. It is much appreciated I can assure you.
I shall follow your advice Graham simply because I... (show quote)


As you know Billy, we have extremes of weather over here too, why only last winter I was out and my ears and nose got quite chilly... and the summer heat, I've been known to go out with just a sweater on :shock:

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Nov 25, 2014 08:57:01   #
doduce Loc: Holly Springs NC
 
Billyspad wrote:
Thank you for the encouragement doduce. How could I have improved this?


My sense is that this image, taken under these circumstances, might be better in color. There might not be the separation of tones and the depth of whites and blacks to work super well as a monochrome image. Not sure what PP software you used, but Nik and Topaz (and others, no doubt) offer some relatively inexpensive plug-ins for PSCC that might help enhance and refine the product. I also agree with later comments, particularly those of Graham Smith, who does wonderful B&W work of all kinds (portraits, landscapes, etc), that this one image is a great "first" and could be the beginning of an extended study of this mountain in different seasons, weather, time of day and so on.

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Nov 25, 2014 12:33:00   #
Uuglypher Loc: South Dakota (East River)
 
Billyspad wrote:
The subject is Mt Makiney which I can see from my house. This was taken at around 10 am on a hillside about 1 klm from my home.

Definitely new frontier here. Not sure I have ever produced a landscape in my life. Here is the deal. No access to wide angle lens or polarizing filters. So is it worth pursuing with just the kit lens 18-55.
Got a whole heap of PP software and can use most of it to a so so degree so enhancements not a problem.

So critique and advice please would be very welcome.
The subject is Mt Makiney which I can see from my ... (show quote)


let's see....
"Wow" works!

The sharp cloud layering is the impact. I'd sure make each such photog session an opportunity for experimentation
Lucky you.
As Graham has pointed out, you have the subject basis for an impressive body of work right there on your doorstep!

How high is Mt. Makiney?

Dave

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Nov 25, 2014 13:40:59   #
jackm1943 Loc: Omaha, Nebraska
 
Billyspad wrote:
The subject is Mt Makiney which I can see from my house. This was taken at around 10 am on a hillside about 1 klm from my home.

Definitely new frontier here. Not sure I have ever produced a landscape in my life. Here is the deal. No access to wide angle lens or polarizing filters. So is it worth pursuing with just the kit lens 18-55.
Got a whole heap of PP software and can use most of it to a so so degree so enhancements not a problem.

So critique and advice please would be very welcome.
The subject is Mt Makiney which I can see from my ... (show quote)

I have no suggestions because I think you nailed this one, but I can tell you what I like about it. I think the contrast is perfect and clearly defines the several areas - fore, mid, and back ground. And the tonal values of the sky are perfect IMO. Your lens is obviously more than capable for these internet posts if not for large prints. Amazing for a first attempt.

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Nov 25, 2014 14:05:31   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
Did you also shoot this in RAW? There are a couple spots up at 11 o'clock you need to fix. But the composition is lovely.

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Nov 25, 2014 14:58:01   #
Nightski
 
Billyspad,this is a great image. Love the contrasty b&w and the feeling of movement in the sky ... I feel like somethings going to happen. I didn't notice until download, but there is a bit of noise and some sensor spots .. I know that is no problem for you! :-)

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Nov 25, 2014 17:49:16   #
Billyspad Loc: The Philippines
 
Uuglypher wrote:
let's see....
"Wow" works!

The sharp cloud layering is the impact. I'd sure make each such photog session an opportunity for experimentation
Lucky you.
As Graham has pointed out, you have the subject basis for an impressive body of work right there on your doorstep!

How high is Mt. Makiney?

Dave



Mount Makiling, or Mount Maquiling, is a dormant volcano in Laguna province on the island of Luzon, Philippines. The mountain rises to an elevation of 1,090 m above mean sea level and is the highest feature of the Laguna Volcanic Field.

As you can see I spelt the name of my local mountain incorrectly. Im about 50% deaf and have been for 30 years so I often misinterpret slightly when a name is given to me. And as yet have not visited this local tourist attraction.
Mountains here are more what in UK we would call high hills. You do not need crampons rope and oxygen to get to the top!!

Thank you for the encouraging words about my post Dave. I shall indeed be returning to my mountain for further experimentation

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Nov 25, 2014 17:54:01   #
Billyspad Loc: The Philippines
 
Nightski wrote:
Billyspad,this is a great image. Love the contrasty b&w and the feeling of movement in the sky ... I feel like somethings going to happen. I didn't notice until download, but there is a bit of noise and some sensor spots .. I know that is no problem for you! :-)


Thank you for those kind words Sandra. We do get some pretty dramatic skies here in Phils and they are fun to work with.
The noise I feel is grain in the process. I used a very grainy conversion and a very contrasty one and then a layer mask to combine parts of each.
I will look at it again though. Yep my sensor needs cleaning again!!!

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