ptcanon3ti Loc: NJ

Here's the deal:

I've been saving my pennies and selling everything I can find in my house that isn't nailed down in order to get a new body. I've been wanting a FF camera for the high quality IQ inherent on FF cameras.

I'm currently shooting Canon. (7D) So I've been thinking of moving to Nikon for the great DR and IQ available on their FF Exmor bodies. Probably a D750. High ISO as well as lowlight sensitivity and state of the, Nikon, art focusing system is a HUGE thing to me.

Then Canon did something unexpected...They created the 7D2 which to my surprise seems to be a really great sports wildlife camera. Unexpectedly good HIGH iso capabilities and the Canon state of the art AF system.

My Thought as bizarre as it may seem is to possibly get BOTH cameras. The 7D2 for My birding and occasional nephews baseball/basketball games. And the 750 for Astro/landscape/night/portraiture.

Thoughts anyone?????

jethro779 Loc: Tucson, AZ

Just remember that it will take twice as long to get good pictures trying to learn two systems at once.

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

I think you've drank too deeply from the Nikon cup ... why not a 6D or 5DIII or 5DII? Or just the 7D2 and wait to see what Canon does in 2015? Two systems sounds like a waste and the need to duplicate lenses, etc.

ptcanon3ti Loc: NJ

Yeah...I know the learning curve will be steep but it will be fun all the way. :)

ptcanon3ti Loc: NJ

I appreciate your thoughts. I've thought about the 6D which is Canon's best camera as far as IQ is concerned. I just really don't like the focus system in it at all. Plus imo the IQ and DR from the 750 will be superior to the 6D. 5D3 = way too overpriced, for what you get.

SharpShooter Loc: NorCal

Pt, why don't you get two bodies.
Sell the 7d and get a used or new 60Da for the astro work(if serious about astro) and the 7ll for everything else. Then combine your lens money to get the best lenses you can.
We have not seen them but soon we might start seeing comparisons between the 7ll and FF cameras. I'll bet if you shoot uncropped shots with a 7ll it will be hard to tell the difference between the two if you do your job correctly.
If you expect to take bad shots and correct everything by bringing up shadows a couple stops, no camera will perform their best. That's why they all have Auto HDR now. To handle the situations that can't be handled.
Just a thought. ;-)

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

About this time last year, I set a 'had to be this low' number on a 5DIII refurb. And then, a 'new' used one came up here at UHH where the family bought for the holidays the Canon, but he wanted the Nikon. You might find a year later a refurb or lightly used is not so pricey as compared to new. The 5DIII shares the focus system with the 1DX, just not the dual processors and rugged build. But, there will be events in 2015 that don't involve a switch ...

ptcanon3ti Loc: NJ

Yah...the 5D3 has a renowned AF system. That's why I'm impressed with the 7D2. Canon improved on the already great focus system.

MT Shooter Loc: Montana

The pro-canon camp is trying hard to convince you to stay there. I suggest renting the D750 and try it for yourself, no better way to make a decision.

ptcanon3ti Loc: NJ

Thanks for the ideas. By astro I don't mean deep space shots. I mean clean Milkyway shots with pleasing foregrounds or clean star trail shots.

I've already been doing HDR for every single landscape shot I do. Of course not "auto" HDR, but HDR nonetheless. I'd like to have the choice to take one shot and open shadows without the use of HDR. The only canon body that comes close to that is the 6D.

I've been waiting to see more in-depth looks at the 7D2...ie NON sports shots and reviews of LOW iso ability. Now that LR can process RAW files from the 7D2 I hope someone will give me what I'm looking for as far as a credible review is concerned.

ptcanon3ti Loc: NJ

haha...I know. But at this point, shockingly the only canon camera I'm interested in is the 7D2. I just have no faith in their FF offerings. Believe me I WANT canon to be there in the FF realm, but they just aren't.

Yes I plan on renting a D750 and one lens to give it a try. I also want to rent the 7D2 to see what it can do in LOW iso.

Know any good rental places? ;)

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

LensRentals.com - their black friday code starts Wed 11.26 running to 12.1 - 25% off with code BLACKFRIDAY for deliveries as late as 3.31.2015.

I'd ask myself: in 6-mth from now, what am I going to do with whatever my choice is that is no longer #1? I've started to think this is some sort of golden age, but I'd also be concerned you're chasing something you're not actually going to find ....

ptcanon3ti Loc: NJ

Cool...thanks for the lens rentals tip!

Well in my research I've discovered that there is no perfect camera...hence my contemplating 2 systems. :(

SharpShooter Loc: NorCal

Pt, you control your door, not us. You can walk out your door and buy anything you want, or waste money renting cameras, it's your money.
When I think of sports, I think of FAST sports and FAST wildlife. I'm not thinking baseball, 6 year olds playing soccer, or shooting seagulls!
Yes, the 7ll is going to be a sports/wildlife sensation, but for those really difficult shoots, not the run of the mill stuff.
And the 5lll stepped up to the plate and filled the gap doing sports and general shooting admirably by borrowing so heavily from the 1dx until the arrival of the 7ll.
And in most comprehensive tests against the d810, the 5lll almost always comes out on top as the better overall camera. While many things are a trade-off between the two cameras, no matter which comes out on top, that makes the 5lll awfully good.
I have never heard that the d750 is a better camera than the d810. That means the 750 is also not as good as the 5lll.
Pt, I have shot a 5ll for 5 years, for everything from sports to landscape, including lots of night shots and I would challenge anybody to put up shots that could not be done by my 5 year old camera. And the 5lll is twice as good as the 5ll at everything, yet I managed. I'm glad to post a shot in any genre, for anyone to see.
Unless you're sports/wildlife shots are going to be the utmost demanding of shots, the 5lll is capable of taking on ANY camera at any kind of shooting including the 7ll.
Maybe what you really need is a FF 5lll.
I'm serious when I say get the best glass you can get. That's where Canon REALLY takes over. Fast, fast glass with unequaled IS and focus systems.
Pt, it's your door, you control it, not us! : lol:
SS

lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA

If you can afford two sets of glass it could make sense.

I have 3 Pentax bodies and over 20 Pentax lenses so switching brands make little sense for me, but if Pentax does not get it together and put out a full sized sensor body soon I may add a Nikon 810 / 750 / 610 to my collection and get a few Nikkor lenses.