Digital images, by their very nature, will benefit from at least a slight contrast adjustment and some sharpening.
Note I said would benefit - not require. The anti-aliasing filter in front of the sensor does tend to soften ever so slightly, the original file. In many cases the image looks fine if nothing is done, but looks better with a little contrast and sharpening. That is exactly what any consumer print service does to your file unless you ask it to be turned off (which the teenager running the machine has no idea how to do1).
I look at PS as a digital dark room. Not every photo needs extensive processing but I shoot in raw (someday I hope to be good enough to shoot in jpeg, lol) so every photo I take goes into PS. If you shoot in Jpeg then the camera applies some "corrections" to every image that you take. If you want to see what you really shoot, shoot in Raw.
I think perfect is in the eye of the beholder, but I think getting an accurate white balance does move us closer to the bar of perfection. I use something called an ExpoDisc and that has helped me get what I think is a more accurate exposure and color than before when I used Daylight, Shadow, and the the other preset white balance settings. However, I now think the best way is to set the white balance manually in Kelvins, but it is time consuming and again is a judgement issue, since it takes me several shots to judge the accuracy. What I see on LiveView doesn't always translate into a picture I'm happy about adding to my library.
senad55verizon.net wrote:
tainkc wrote:
MMC wrote:
I have Nikon d70 and d50. Almost every picture which I took I am editing with Photoshop. Sometimes I can improve my picture very fast sometimes not. My question is 'Is it possible to have perfect picture from camera without editing?"
Absolutely! I have to do it all of the time 'cause I suck at photoshop. Lol.
Now then, let us define the word "perfect".
Believe it or not, after some serious study of Camera Raw and Photoshop, postprocessing can be just as much fun and just as rewarding as running around pushing the shutter button.
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I totally agree. I get a great deal of enjoyment of spending an evening listening to music and making images come alive. Long Live Raw!
I enjoy the artistic addition of image corrections as well. It's the second most fun in Photography. What else would we be doing on a cold rainy day?
Roger Hicks wrote:
senad55verizon.net wrote:
Believe it or not, after some serious study of Camera Raw and Photoshop, postprocessing can be just as much fun and just as rewarding as running around pushing the shutter button.
No, really, I don't believe it. And I've been using both for years.
You may like it. May regard it as a necessary evil.
Cheers,
R.
What I compare it with is doing B&W in in the dull reddish half-light of a sulfurous-smelling darkroom, and the endless traipses to the camera store for processing color negatives and transparencies ('some day my prints will come'). Remember all that?
That's what Photoshop and its lesser siblings replace. Works for me!
senad55verizon.net wrote:
What I compare it with is doing B&W in in the dull reddish half-light of a sulfurous-smelling darkroom, and the endless traipses to the camera store for processing color negatives and transparencies ('some day my prints will come'). Remember all that?
That's what Photoshop and its lesser siblings replace. Works for me!
Remember it? I'm still doing it!
If your darkroom smelled sulfurous, it wasn't properly ventilated.
I sincerely doubt that you dislike real darkrooms more than I dislike computerized post processing. This doesn't mean either of us is right -- but it doesn't mean that either of us is wrong either.
Cheers,
R.
Roger Hicks wrote:
senad55verizon.net wrote:
What I compare it with is doing B&W in in the dull reddish half-light of a sulfurous-smelling darkroom, and the endless traipses to the camera store for processing color negatives and transparencies ('some day my prints will come'). Remember all that?
That's what Photoshop and its lesser siblings replace. Works for me!
Remember it? I'm still doing it!
If your darkroom smelled sulfurous, it wasn't properly ventilated.
I sincerely doubt that you dislike real darkrooms more than I dislike computerized post processing. This doesn't mean either of us is right -- but it doesn't mean that either of us is wrong either.
Cheers,
R.
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It wasn't poorly ventilated, it wasn't ventilated at all.
Got the picture, and couldn't agree more about right and wrong.
Wickspics
Loc: Detroits Northwest Side. Cody High School.
Here we go, chasing perfect again, never stop trying for someday I believe it might happen.
MMC
Loc: Brooklyn NY
Thanks a lot to everybody taking part in this discussion.
abc1234
Loc: Elk Grove Village, Illinois
jwpulliam wrote:
I think perfect is in the eye of the beholder, but I think getting an accurate white balance does move us closer to the bar of perfection. I use something called an ExpoDisc and that has helped me get what I think is a more accurate exposure and color than before when I used Daylight, Shadow, and the the other preset white balance settings. However, I now think the best way is to set the white balance manually in Kelvins, but it is time consuming and again is a judgement issue, since it takes me several shots to judge the accuracy. What I see on LiveView doesn't always translate into a picture I'm happy about adding to my library.
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White balance is a hot-button issue here. I have used Expodisc for years and love it. It is for white balance, not exposure. I disagree with your setting it manually because the way you do it, you are just guessing and you may as well just set your camera to auto. Humans are just too subjective and fraught with selective memory.
As for tables of color temperatures, who knows who those numbers were derived. I could write a paragraph on the pratfalls of such tables. Best thing to do is to pitch them. The proper way to set color temperature is with a color temperature meter. However, the Expodisc is a cheaper, simpler way of doing the same thing.
I would like to learn if and how you can use the Expodisc to set exposure. If anyone can, please post your experience.
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