Pipeline did not pass: Oil stock owned by Senators have anything to do with the vote??

warrior Loc: Paso Robles CA

Oil stock owned by Senators have anything to do with the vote??

Bangee5 Loc: Louisiana

warrior wrote:

Oil stock owned by Senators have anything to do with the vote??

No... just a bunch of Democrats that don't know what is good for the country. Wait until next year.

richard-sports Loc: New York City

Yay!!! to the pipeline not passing.

UXOEOD

richard-sports wrote:

Yay!!! to the pipeline not passing.

Which offends you more, the jobs, the royalties to the land owners and states, or the lower energy prices?

nakkh Loc: San Mateo, Ca

Don't forget the oil is just passing through the US and will not supply the us oil supplies. Also, the Koch oils sands
are the dirtiest oil on the planet and chew up vast swaths of land
making it a toxic wasteland afterwards.

Bangee5 wrote:

No... just a bunch of Democrats that don't know what is good for the country. Wait until next year.

http://images.huffingtonpost.com/2010-03-01-TarSandsDestruction_Web.jpg

http://www.canadiangeographic.ca/magazine/jun08/feature_tar_sands.asp

http://www.wilderutopia.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Clear-Water-Media-Alberta-Oil-Sands.jpg?62075d
http://www.roperld.com/science/minerals/OilSandsDamage.jpg
http://www.forestethics.org/sites/forestethics.huang.radicaldesigns.org/files/tar-sands-tailing-pond.jpg
http://www.pri.org/sites/default/files/story/images/140407-0275.jpg
http://static.theglobeandmail.ca/2f2/incoming/article864964.ece/ALTERNATES/w620/web-oilsands22.jpg
This is wholesale environmental destruction.

Bangee5 Loc: Louisiana

Nakkh Said:

Don't forget the oil is just passing through the US and will not supply the us oil supplies. Also, the Koch oils sands
are the dirtiest oil on the planet and chew up vast swaths of land
making it a toxic wasteland afterwards.

So what if it is just passing through. Think about the jobs it will provide. Not only that, think about the oil that we do import... we can and will tap into the pipeline at a lower import price. And who do you think will be doing the exporting. Our ports. Money... Money... Money...!

If Obama was for it - so would you... tink about that.

Love the pictures. I see a lot of that here in Louisiana.

mwoods222 Loc: Newburg N.Y,

How about Warren Buffet?

nakkh Loc: San Mateo, Ca

Once the construction -- which would last no more than two years -- wraps up, Keystone XL
will have created just 50 permanent jobs -- the number needed to maintain the pipeline.
Big deal.
Also, The State Department said Keystone XL would have "little impact" on domestic gas prices.
Big benefits for Koch, Not so much (as usual) for American workers.

Bangee5 wrote:

Nakkh Said: br br Don't forget the oil is just pa... (show quote)

Also-

If Obama was for it I would still be against it. :-)

The one thing I agree on is it would get that oil off those substandard DOT-111 train cars moving through the US. --->

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/schumer-shoddy-fuel-trains-deadly-explosion-article-1.1568120

chrisscholbe Loc: Kansas City, MO

mwoods222 wrote:

How about Warren Buffet?

So....It's OK for conservatives, like the Koch brothers, to benefit from installing the pipeline, but, it's NOT ok if Buffet benefits from NOT installing the pipeline?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm......can you say double standard?

tschmath Loc: Los Angeles

UXOEOD wrote:

Which offends you more, the jobs, the royalties to the land owners and states, or the lower energy prices?

The Jobs? Are you for real? according to the State department, this idiotic pipeline will create 35 permanent jobs - not 350, not 3500, not 35,000. A whopping 35. All for transporting incredibly dangerous and polluting oil to Louisiana where EVERY drop will be exported. One report actually predicts that oil prices in this country will rise if this comes to pass.

UXOEOD

nakkh wrote:

Once the construction -- which would last no more ... (show quote)

Don't know where you get your 50 job number from, but just for argument I will accept it. And really what is 50 jobs, unless of course you are one of the currently un-employed. And why, when democrats count jobs the GM give away susposely saved do you count all associated jobs, but Keystone Pipeline jobs you only want to count the one guy who paints the sign.

UXOEOD

tschmath wrote:

The Jobs? Are you for real? according to the State department, this idiotic pipeline will create 35 permanent jobs - not 350, not 3500, not 35,000. A whopping 35. All for transporting incredibly dangerous and polluting oil to Louisiana where EVERY drop will be exported. One report actually predicts that oil prices in this country will rise if this comes to pass.

Lets not transport it safely in a pipe, lets run it in trucks or rail cars where it is really a moving hazard. Get real dip wad! And your job numbers are bull, and you know it. Try honesty once, you may like it. And Obama and his lackies have repeatedly been prove liars, so don't quote thier lies and expect anyone to beleive them.

nakkh Loc: San Mateo, Ca

His numbers are correct.
http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2014/feb/10/van-jones/cnns-van-jones-says-keystone-pipeline-only-creates/

UXOEOD wrote:

Lets not transport it safely in a pipe, lets run it in trucks or rail cars where it is really a moving hazard. Get real dip wad! And your job numbers are bull, and you know it. Try honesty once, you may like it. And Obama and his lackies have repeatedly been prove liars, so don't quote thier lies and expect anyone to beleive them.

The truth hurts.

nakkh Loc: San Mateo, Ca

Please see my previous posts as to why I am against Keystone & oilsands oil.

UXOEOD wrote:

Don't know where you get your 50 job number from, but just for argument I will accept it. And really what is 50 jobs, unless of course you are one of the currently un-employed. And why, when democrats count jobs the GM give away susposely saved do you count all associated jobs, but Keystone Pipeline jobs you only want to count the one guy who paints the sign.

UXOEOD

nakkh wrote:

Please see my previous posts as to why I am against Keystone & oilsands oil.

You almost said it all. A more indepth, more consist, better thought out, and even more articulately explanation was not expected. You only failed in two areas. Firstly, you failed to blame President Bush. And secondly, you failed to call me, and anyone else who disagrees with you, a bigoted racist.

In all sincere sarcasm, let me thank you for your lesson in debate, discussion, and logic.

Then liberals wonder why conservatives feel it is a waste of time to openly discuss anything with a liberal. Go Figure.