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Nov 13, 2014 12:52:06   #
donweiner Loc: Boston
 
I am wondering if a 2X teleconverter (or other suggestions) will work for me......I am getting mixed reviews.

Nikon D3100
Tamron 18-270 mm F/3.5-6.3 PZD
Nikon DX AF-S Nikkor 55-200 mm 1:4-5.6G /ED
Nikon DX AF-S Nikkor 18-55 mm 1:3.5-5.6G
Nikon AF-S Nikkor 50 mm 1:1.8G

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Nov 13, 2014 13:03:39   #
Dngallagher Loc: Wilmington De.
 
donweiner wrote:
I am wondering if a 2X teleconverter (or other suggestions) will work for me......I am getting mixed reviews.

Nikon D3100
Tamron 18-270 mm F/3.5-6.3 PZD
Nikon DX AF-S Nikkor 55-200 mm 1:4-5.6G /ED
Nikon DX AF-S Nikkor 18-55 mm 1:3.5-5.6G
Nikon AF-S Nikkor 50 mm 1:1.8G

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I use a 2x extender on many of my lenses at times.

It will double the length of the lense, but it also will reduce the light entering the camera, but that may be
compensatable with ISO & shutter speed.

BUT you did not mention what it is you expect it to do?

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Nov 13, 2014 13:28:49   #
joer Loc: Colorado/Illinois
 
donweiner wrote:
I am wondering if a 2X teleconverter (or other suggestions) will work for me......I am getting mixed reviews.

Nikon D3100
Tamron 18-270 mm F/3.5-6.3 PZD
Nikon DX AF-S Nikkor 55-200 mm 1:4-5.6G /ED
Nikon DX AF-S Nikkor 18-55 mm 1:3.5-5.6G
Nikon AF-S Nikkor 50 mm 1:1.8G

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A 2X TC will also double your f stop. They work best with long, fast lenses.

You won't be able to auto focus with the zooms you have.

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Nov 13, 2014 14:48:04   #
Dngallagher Loc: Wilmington De.
 
joer wrote:
A 2X TC will also double your f stop. They work best with long, fast lenses.

You won't be able to auto focus with the zooms you have.


I am able to focus with EVERY AF lens I have with my 2x extender... both AF-S type and AF-D type that rely on the internal motor.

SOME extenders have pass thru electrical contacts and focusing lugs, some do not...

BTW - Lenses that work AF for me with my 2x extender:

Nikon 55-300 AF-S f/4.5-5.6
Nikon 18-55 AF-S f/3.5-5.6
Nikon 50 f/1.8
Nikon 28 f/2.8
Tokina 11-16 F/2.8
Sigma 170-500 f/5-6.3
Quantaray 28-90 f/3.5-5.6
Nikon 35-70 f/3.3-4.5

And my 2x extender is a not real expensive Quantaray from Ebay.

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Nov 13, 2014 16:22:49   #
jr168
 
The Nikon teleconverter will not work with the lenses that you have. You might have luck with the Kenko or other brands but I would double check to make sure. You will lose 2 stops of light with the 2x converter thus making your f/5.6 lenses f/11. Your camera will not be able to use auto-focus since it is only capable to focus down to f/5.6. You will also notice quite a bit of softening in your images.

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Nov 13, 2014 16:32:41   #
Leitz Loc: Solms
 
donweiner wrote:
I am wondering if a 2X teleconverter (or other suggestions) will work for me......I am getting mixed reviews.

Nikon D3100
Tamron 18-270 mm F/3.5-6.3 PZD
Nikon DX AF-S Nikkor 55-200 mm 1:4-5.6G /ED
Nikon DX AF-S Nikkor 18-55 mm 1:3.5-5.6G
Nikon AF-S Nikkor 50 mm 1:1.8G

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Here are Nikon's current teleconverters. When you select one, there is a link to a Nikkor lens compatibility list.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?atclk=Brand_Nikon&ci=278&N=4077634487+4291315846

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Nov 13, 2014 18:26:04   #
f8lee Loc: New Mexico
 
donweiner wrote:
I am wondering if a 2X teleconverter (or other suggestions) will work for me......I am getting mixed reviews.

Nikon D3100
Tamron 18-270 mm F/3.5-6.3 PZD
Nikon DX AF-S Nikkor 55-200 mm 1:4-5.6G /ED
Nikon DX AF-S Nikkor 18-55 mm 1:3.5-5.6G
Nikon AF-S Nikkor 50 mm 1:1.8G

I trust UHH answers more than any other site


Not to reiterate what has been said, but a 2X TC will "cost" 2 f-stops worth of lens speed.

But what has not been mentioned is that the ability to autofocus has much (or everything) to do with the specific camera body - AF requires a certain amount of contrast and without enough light getting to the AF mechanism it just won't work. I cannot speak for the D3100 you have, but generally speaking the higher-priced (and newer) cameras ghave more sensitive AF systems than less costly/older models - the march of technology and all.

That said, using a TC on a wide angle lens is just silly, so let's look at the telephoto side of your gear: the Tamron will effectively become an f14 or so lens when at the 270MM end; I don't think ANY camera out there (not even the D4) would be able to AF in that circumstance. At 200MM the f5.6 effectively becomes f11, and that might be workable if there is enough ambient light. As for the 50, again, why bother? You basically end up with a 100MM f-what, 3.9?

Someone here who actually has a D3100 will be able to give you real world experience, but the point is that it's the camera itself that matters more when it comes to whether AF will work.

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Nov 14, 2014 08:09:02   #
Mark7829 Loc: Calfornia
 
donweiner wrote:
I am wondering if a 2X teleconverter (or other suggestions) will work for me......I am getting mixed reviews.

Nikon D3100
Tamron 18-270 mm F/3.5-6.3 PZD
Nikon DX AF-S Nikkor 55-200 mm 1:4-5.6G /ED
Nikon DX AF-S Nikkor 18-55 mm 1:3.5-5.6G
Nikon AF-S Nikkor 50 mm 1:1.8G

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High TC such as a 2x will degrade image quality by 26% as reported by analysis online. Less at 1.7 and 1.4.

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Nov 14, 2014 20:21:18   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
Mark7829 wrote:
High TC such as a 2x will degrade image quality by 26% as reported by analysis online. Less at 1.7 and 1.4.

Just out of curiosity, how do they measure IQ?

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Nov 14, 2014 20:36:13   #
Mark7829 Loc: Calfornia
 
They looked at sharpness.

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Nov 14, 2014 20:49:06   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
Mark7829 wrote:
They looked at sharpness

How do they measure sharpness??

In other words, what does it mean to be 26% less sharp?
I understand that you can look at two images and declare that one is sharper than the other, but a number like 26% implies precision in making that measurement.

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Nov 14, 2014 23:07:53   #
OddJobber Loc: Portland, OR
 
Mark7829 wrote:
High TC such as a 2x will degrade image quality by 26% as reported by analysis online. Less at 1.7 and 1.4.


:?: Got a link to that analysis?

26% is a pretty broad generalization. It's variable with every lens/TC combo and it's heavily influenced by the quality of the TC. Bear in mind also that a TC will also magnify any deficiency of the lens.

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Nov 14, 2014 23:19:01   #
romanticf16 Loc: Commerce Twp, MI
 
donweiner wrote:
I am wondering if a 2X teleconverter (or other suggestions) will work for me......I am getting mixed reviews.
Nikon D3100
Tamron 18-270 mm F/3.5-6.3 PZD
Nikon DX AF-S Nikkor 55-200 mm 1:4-5.6G /ED
Nikon DX AF-S Nikkor 18-55 mm 1:3.5-5.6G
Nikon AF-S Nikkor 50 mm 1:1.8G
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A 2X converter will magnify 2 times but will also decrease light by 2 f stops. Recommended for tele use: f6.3+2=more than f11; f5.6 + 2 stops = f11. Your camera will not autofocus at f11, so anything you do would be manual focus with a dark, stopped down lens.

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Nov 14, 2014 23:23:49   #
romanticf16 Loc: Commerce Twp, MI
 
f8lee wrote:
Not to reiterate what has been said, but a 2X TC will "cost" 2 f-stops worth of lens speed.

But what has not been mentioned is that the ability to autofocus has much (or everything) to do with the specific camera body - AF requires a certain amount of contrast and without enough light getting to the AF mechanism it just won't work. I cannot speak for the D3100 you have, but generally speaking the higher-priced (and newer) cameras ghave more sensitive AF systems than less costly/older models - the march of technology and all.

That said, using a TC on a wide angle lens is just silly, so let's look at the telephoto side of your gear: the Tamron will effectively become an f14 or so lens when at the 270MM end; I don't think ANY camera out there (not even the D4) would be able to AF in that circumstance. At 200MM the f5.6 effectively becomes f11, and that might be workable if there is enough ambient light. As for the 50, again, why bother? You basically end up with a 100MM f-what, 3.9?
Someone here who actually has a D3100 will be able to give you real world experience, but the point is that it's the camera itself that matters more when it comes to whether AF will work.
Not to reiterate what has been said, but a 2X TC w... (show quote)

The top of the line Nikon D4s ($6,000+) can only autofocus to f8- There is no way a D3100 will do better than this camera.

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Nov 14, 2014 23:44:58   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
romanticf16 wrote:
The top of the line Nikon D4s ($6,000+) can only autofocus to f8- There is no way a D3100 will do better than this camera.

How much of this is what the camera can do and how much is what the camera will do, I wonder. I have an elderly Canon Rebel, which I use with an older Kenko doubler and a Tamron 18-270mm f/3.5-6.3 lens. I was told that there was no way that this combination would provide autofocus, especially at maximum extension. I was told that the camera wouldn't even try to focus because of the doubler, but this particular doubler doesn't report itself. The camera doesn't know that it can't focus ... so it has tried to autofocus, and it has succeeded in autofocusing the few times I've tried it at maximum extension ... admittedly under good lighting conditions.

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