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Feb 16, 2012 19:32:15   #
achammar Loc: Idaho
 
Ok, I wanted a nice speed flash to mount to my camera. I heard that the SB600 was a nice mid to upper quality nice all around flash that did a good job. So I bought one...that was before I had even heard of sync speed. It took me forever to figure out why sometimes my camera (Nikon D60) would go up to faster than 1/2500 of a second, and other times the fastest it would go was 1/200. I finally figured out that when the flash was on the 1/200 was as fast as the shutter speed would go...and I now know that's because of the sync speed of the sb600. So I think I made a mistake because I need faster speeds than that with a flash.
I don't know that much about sync speed yet, but I'm learning fast.
My question is...can I get a good speed flash that is better than the SB600 that will allow me at least 1/400 (faster would be better) of second shutter speed, or is 1/200 pretty good for an add on flash?
Anyone know?
Thanks!

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Feb 16, 2012 19:35:12   #
RaydancePhoto
 
I think I am right on this. The sync speed is strictly a camera issue. I shoot cannons and they will sync up to 1/250 no matter what speedlight is used

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Feb 16, 2012 19:45:26   #
Wabbit Loc: Arizona Desert
 
RaydancePhoto wrote:
I think I am right on this. The sync speed is strictly a camera issue. I shoot cannons and they will sync up to 1/250 no matter what speedlight is used


Correct, the sync speed is governed by the Camera Not the flash.

BTW your D60's sync speed is 1/200th of a second.

Your SB600 is an excellent flash, you just have to learn how to use it.

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Feb 16, 2012 19:55:27   #
achammar Loc: Idaho
 
OH..ok..then I was wrong. It's the camera, not the flash. I guess I'm stuck with 1/200 then until I get a different camera. So whatever year that might be, all I need to know is the sync speed of the camera, right? The flash isn't going to matter (much)??? Is the sync speed of a camera a normal spec that is usually listed in the specs when buying, or does that have to be investigated first?
Thanks to all...this was a good thing for me to learn!
OH...and yes, I know the SB600 is a very good flash. I love it!
:-)

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Feb 16, 2012 20:11:58   #
CaptainC Loc: Colorado, south of Denver
 
achammar wrote:
Ok, I wanted a nice speed flash to mount to my camera. I heard that the SB600 was a nice mid to upper quality nice all around flash that did a good job. So I bought one...that was before I had even heard of sync speed. It took me forever to figure out why sometimes my camera (Nikon D60) would go up to faster than 1/2500 of a second, and other times the fastest it would go was 1/200. I finally figured out that when the flash was on the 1/200 was as fast as the shutter speed would go...and I now know that's because of the sync speed of the sb600. So I think I made a mistake because I need faster speeds than that with a flash.
I don't know that much about sync speed yet, but I'm learning fast.
My question is...can I get a good speed flash that is better than the SB600 that will allow me at least 1/400 (faster would be better) of second shutter speed, or is 1/200 pretty good for an add on flash?
Anyone know?
Thanks!
Ok, I wanted a nice speed flash to mount to my cam... (show quote)


I only use my 600s as remotes, and I know for a fact that they will sync to 1/8000. Your camera has to be set for AutoFP High Speed Sync as the sync speed of the flash is a camera function.

Go to the menu Bracketing/Flash and find that function. It is possible the D60 does not have that function as it was considered an entry level camera and lots of features were left out.

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Feb 16, 2012 20:14:40   #
RaydancePhoto
 
Most all cameras sync between 1/50 and 1/250 - you control the light with aperture and the power of the flash.

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Feb 16, 2012 20:45:29   #
ShakyShutter Loc: Arizona
 
The sync speed has to do with the highest shutter speed at which the mechanical shutter is wide open so the light from the flash can hit the entire sensor at one time.

BTW, the SB600 has a flash duration of up to 1/25,000 of a second in case you need action stopping power.

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Feb 16, 2012 20:46:05   #
CaptainC Loc: Colorado, south of Denver
 
ShakyShutter wrote:
The sync speed has to do with the highest shutter speed at which the mechanical shutter is wide open so the light from the flash can hit the entire sensor at one time.

BTW, the SB600 has a flash duration of up to 1/25,000 of a second in case you need action stopping power.


That is not the question. It is how high can the shutter speed go and still have a flash exposure.

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Feb 16, 2012 20:52:02   #
Wabbit Loc: Arizona Desert
 
achammar wrote:
OH..ok..then I was wrong. It's the camera, not the flash. I guess I'm stuck with 1/200 then until I get a different camera. So whatever year that might be, all I need to know is the sync speed of the camera, right? The flash isn't going to matter (much)??? Is the sync speed of a camera a normal spec that is usually listed in the specs when buying, or does that have to be investigated first?
Thanks to all...this was a good thing for me to learn!
OH...and yes, I know the SB600 is a very good flash. I love it!
:-)
OH..ok..then I was wrong. It's the camera, not th... (show quote)


Most DSLR's sync at 200 or 250.

My Nikon D70s can sync at 1/500

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Feb 16, 2012 21:00:41   #
achammar Loc: Idaho
 
CaptainC wrote:
achammar wrote:
Ok, I wanted a nice speed flash to mount to my camera. I heard that the SB600 was a nice mid to upper quality nice all around flash that did a good job. So I bought one...that was before I had even heard of sync speed. It took me forever to figure out why sometimes my camera (Nikon D60) would go up to faster than 1/2500 of a second, and other times the fastest it would go was 1/200. I finally figured out that when the flash was on the 1/200 was as fast as the shutter speed would go...and I now know that's because of the sync speed of the sb600. So I think I made a mistake because I need faster speeds than that with a flash.
I don't know that much about sync speed yet, but I'm learning fast.
My question is...can I get a good speed flash that is better than the SB600 that will allow me at least 1/400 (faster would be better) of second shutter speed, or is 1/200 pretty good for an add on flash?
Anyone know?
Thanks!
Ok, I wanted a nice speed flash to mount to my cam... (show quote)


I only use my 600s as remotes, and I know for a fact that they will sync to 1/8000. Your camera has to be set for AutoFP High Speed Sync as the sync speed of the flash is a camera function.

Go to the menu Bracketing/Flash and find that function. It is possible the D60 does not have that function as it was considered an entry level camera and lots of features were left out.
quote=achammar Ok, I wanted a nice speed flash to... (show quote)


Ok, thanks...I will check that, but I don't remember ever seeing that in the menu..thanks for that info..

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Feb 17, 2012 06:38:30   #
Patw28 Loc: PORT JERVIS, NY
 
achammar wrote:
OH..ok..then I was wrong. It's the camera, not the flash. I guess I'm stuck with 1/200 then until I get a different camera. So whatever year that might be, all I need to know is the sync speed of the camera, right? The flash isn't going to matter (much)??? Is the sync speed of a camera a normal spec that is usually listed in the specs when buying, or does that have to be investigated first?
Thanks to all...this was a good thing for me to learn!
OH...and yes, I know the SB600 is a very good flash. I love it!
:-)
OH..ok..then I was wrong. It's the camera, not th... (show quote)


No. That SB-600 almost always shoots at faster than 1/2000 -- yes 1/2000.
The only thing that 1/200 sync is all about is to make sure the camera's shutter is fully open as the flash fires its 1/2000 shot. All that time the shutter is open after the flash has fired is to expose the ambient scene (background).

Look, you've got a terrific camera and flash. Now get yourself a terrific accessory -- a book on flash photography. (Intended as sincere advice, not as a put down.)

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Feb 17, 2012 06:44:25   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
the D60 doesn't have FP (high speed) sync from what I've read.

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Feb 17, 2012 07:05:33   #
konica135 Loc: Ormond Beach, FL
 
I shoot cannons and they will sync up to 1/250 no matter what speedlight is used[/quote]

Cannons make loud noises; Canons make acceptable pictures, Nikons better pictures.

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Feb 17, 2012 07:31:33   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
RaydancePhoto wrote:
I think I am right on this. The sync speed is strictly a camera issue. I shoot cannons and they will sync up to 1/250 no matter what speedlight is used


Although that's funny (canon vs cannon) the rebel does not sync at 1/250 but at 1/200.

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Feb 17, 2012 08:25:53   #
Sirpixxalot Loc: NNJ
 
I don't know much about D60, but most of the Nikon Cameras have speedlight setting from 1/200 -1/320, I have D40, D90, D300 & D700 they all have the same settings. Matter of fact as soon as you mount the flash on the camera shutter speed is locked to the highest setting defined in camera. SB600 is a great speedlight, I have SB600 x 2, SB700 and SB900 they all work on same algorithm. I guess you need to play with it and learn how to get best out it. BTW all strobe lights will sync at max 1/250 also, so really there is no choice.

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