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Nov 9, 2014 19:22:48   #
krl48 Loc: NY, PA now SC
 
khm105 wrote:
If you follow this link then go down to the "Prison Rodeo Policies" you will see that they say no cameras. I didn't read that, hubby bought the tickets.



The big question remains. Is it their intent to prohibit photographs at the event, or just the specific devices that create photographs? The answer matters a great deal.

You witnessed cell phones being used to capture photos or video. 99 percent of cell phones today have a camera function. The banned items list says nothing about tablet computers/Ipads. Many of them have still and video capability. Makes one wonder what their response to someone presenting a tablet computer, and, if admitted, taking pictures with it, would be. Are they going to say that devices that have photographic or video capability as an ancillary function are OK?


Looking forward to what you learn from Louisiana DOC, Kathy. And, unless I miss my guess, be prepared to be
frustrated with the response. Very, very frustrated.

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Nov 9, 2014 19:46:58   #
jfn007 Loc: Close to the middle of nowhere.
 
You might try: http://www.doc.la.gov/pages/contact-us/headquarters/

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Nov 9, 2014 20:32:09   #
khm105 Loc: Louisiana
 
Please don't expect me to get any kind of information too quickly. It will take me awhile to compose exactly what I want to say. Feel free to send me any info you may have that can help me by private messages.

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Nov 9, 2014 21:23:27   #
Milt Findley Loc: Southeastern Wisconsin
 
I don't want to make anyone uncomfortable by pointing my camera at them either.

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Nov 10, 2014 00:37:25   #
xxredbeardxx Loc: San Clemente CA.
 
krl48 wrote:
The big question remains. Is it their intent to prohibit photographs at the event, or just the specific devices that create photographs? The answer matters a great deal.

You witnessed cell phones being used to capture photos or video. 99 percent of cell phones today have a camera function.


2 years ago I went to see a Chicago concert.
The lady I brought with me had a camera in her purse.
During the concert she took it out to take a couple of photos and security
quickly told her to put it back in her purse... while all around us people were taking
photos with their fancy phones. Crazy. They can have that put on utube before the concert
is over but she couldn't take a photo with a little point and shoot.

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Nov 10, 2014 05:39:45   #
MarkintheHV Loc: Hudson Valley
 
xxredbeardxx wrote:
2 years ago I went to see a Chicago concert.
The lady I brought with me had a camera in her purse.
During the concert she took it out to take a couple of photos and security
quickly told her to put it back in her purse... while all around us people were taking
photos with their fancy phones. Crazy. They can have that put on utube before the concert
is over but she couldn't take a photo with a little point and shoot.



I am finding a similar situation with an upcoming Disney on Ice that my wifes girl scout troop is attending. They specifically say "No professional cameras." Then as you read it further, they specify no cameras with a lens that is greater than 2". Needless to say, I was very disappointed

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Nov 10, 2014 07:31:28   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
SonnyE wrote:
Obviously you haven't seen some of MY photography...

Even I think it is a crime. :hunf:
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This is a big assumption of Americans in general.
When you go abroad, or Canada, or even Mexico, you are a GUEST.
And as such you should respect their rules and laws.
Your "rights" stay here.


You are so funny sometimes! :thumbup:

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Nov 10, 2014 07:37:25   #
SonyBug
 
As a former policeman, here is the U.S. law. Public buildings are really not public. They are private for the use of the public. The rules thereby enacted by the managers of the buildings prevail. Just like the streets and sidewalks of a town are private for the use of the public. They are subject to the laws enacted for the town. Eg: behavior, parking, driving, etc.

Just know the law...

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Nov 10, 2014 07:40:22   #
dcampbell52 Loc: Clearwater Fl
 
krl48 wrote:
Since the right to take photographs/video in public occasionally becomes a much discussed topic on UHH, I just learned of a website some of you may be interested in.

Take the title of this topic, remove the spaces and add .com to get there.

BTW, remember the 70 year old fellow arrested and currently detained in the UAE for illegal photography? According to the UK's Daily Mail, he was arrested for taking a photo of a sign that read "NO PHOTOGRAPHY". The story says the man thought it was amusing.

I bet he's not laughing now.

Warning - Photography Is Not A Crime is an edgy website. As they used to say in Rome - Caveat Lector.
Since the right to take photographs/video in publi... (show quote)


Actually, photography is not a crime in the United States and as far as I know, Canada, Great Britain and a few other countries.. (Note: In the US and countries mentioned above, it is not a crime in MOST locations. You can not photo sensitive government areas, private areas etc.

In North Korea, some places in Vietnam, China, Russia and other former Eastern Block countries, photography is limited. In the middle East it is especially limited because of religion and also various military projects.

In Africa, the ability to photograph varies from country to country and often, mile by mile. In South America, the same holds true depending on government, and also in some places local people. (Drug lords are not particularly fond of people snapping photos of them, their lab, or their fields of product for some reason).
That said, when outside the country that you are most familiar with, you need to follow local customs or at least talk to people that know what the rules are.
You will notice that anywhere ISIS is, any photos are taken surreptitiously.

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Nov 10, 2014 07:52:20   #
Jcmarino
 
There are exceptions to every rule, even in public situations. When in doubt, ask. Since 911, security trumps some public area photography, I have found.

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Nov 10, 2014 08:00:52   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
krl48 wrote:
Since the right to take photographs/video in public occasionally becomes a much discussed topic on UHH, I just learned of a website some of you may be interested in.

Take the title of this topic, remove the spaces and add .com to get there.

BTW, remember the 70 year old fellow arrested and currently detained in the UAE for illegal photography? According to the UK's Daily Mail, he was arrested for taking a photo of a sign that read "NO PHOTOGRAPHY". The story says the man thought it was amusing.

I bet he's not laughing now.

Warning - Photography Is Not A Crime is an edgy website. As they used to say in Rome - Caveat Lector.
Since the right to take photographs/video in publi... (show quote)


Why the encrypted url treasure hunt. We can post URLs on the UHH.

http://photographyisnotacrime.com

Glad I mainly do landscapes and macro. Flowers, Insects, Trees, and Mountains don't argue with you. And I'm happy to in practice to limit my photography to California. Plenty to photograph along Hwy 395 alone. Not many restrictions in the wilderness, just some in government buildings, military installations, and Disney Hall. No dictator's firing squads. One probably has to be more careful not to photograph a gang member.

There used to be a sign at the end of Hwy 246 at the beach inside Vandenberg Airforce Base that read "No Photography Allowed". Since I could see lookout towers from that location, I left my camera in the car. This was also right at the Amtrak tracks near the ocean. The area seems to have been changed and there is a formal parking lot and a curved street now.

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Nov 10, 2014 08:16:56   #
dcampbell52 Loc: Clearwater Fl
 
lamiaceae wrote:
Why the encrypted url treasure hunt. We can post URLs on the UHH.

http://photographyisnotacrime.com

Glad I mainly do landscapes and macro. Flowers, Insects, Trees, and Mountains don't argue with you. And I'm happy to in practice to limit my photography to California. Plenty to photograph along Hwy 395 alone. Not many restrictions in the wilderness, just some in government buildings, military installations, and Disney Hall. No dictator's firing squads. One probably has to be more careful not to photograph a gang member.

There used to be a sign at the end of Hwy 246 at the beach inside Vandenberg Airforce Base that read "No Photography Allowed". Since I could see lookout towers from that location, I left my camera in the car. This was also right at the Amtrak tracks near the ocean. The area seems to have been changed and there is a formal parking lot and a curved street now.
Why the encrypted url treasure hunt. We can post ... (show quote)


In the early 80s there was a restaurant at the end of Yakota Air Base Japan that had a patio on the roof. It was common knowledge that it was a popular hangout for foreign agents to photograph American and Nato aircraft flying into that base. Most sensitive planes went to Clark in the Philippines, Guam or Midway because of the more secure locations. Photography was not allowed in areas on Yakota Air Base but the restaurant was adjacent to the fence at the end of the runway and on "private" land so the US couldn't control it and the Japanese government wouldn't.

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Nov 10, 2014 08:27:16   #
krl48 Loc: NY, PA now SC
 
nikonbug wrote:
As a former policeman, here is the U.S. law. Public buildings are really not public. They are private for the use of the public. The rules thereby enacted by the managers of the buildings prevail. Just like the streets and sidewalks of a town are private for the use of the public. They are subject to the laws enacted for the town. Eg: behavior, parking, driving, etc.

Just know the law...


Really? You think that's the law in the United States? I think your interpretation of the law couldn't be more incorrect, sir.

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Nov 10, 2014 08:31:20   #
Apaflo Loc: Anchorage, Alaska
 
nikonbug wrote:
As a former policeman, here is the U.S. law. Public buildings are really not public. They are private for the use of the public. The rules thereby enacted by the managers of the buildings prevail. Just like the streets and sidewalks of a town are private for the use of the public. They are subject to the laws enacted for the town. Eg: behavior, parking, driving, etc.

Just know the law...

Except that "streets and sidewalks of a town are private" is not true. They are in fact public property, as opposed to private property open to the public.

And on private property open to the public, photography can indeed be prohibited, but that must be "posted". It cannot be a secret rule on a paper hidden in the manager's desk. But on the other hand a verbal statement is also sufficient. Hence if there is no sign or other way to know, you can take all the pictures you want... until they tell you to stop. They have no control over what you have already done, but if you don't stop they can throw you off the property and charge you with trespass if you refuse to leave. But you leave with the pictures you've made!

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Nov 10, 2014 08:38:26   #
redhogbill Loc: antelope, calif
 
khm105 wrote:
Recently we went to a rodeo and weren't allowed to bring our cameras. The rodeo was at the Angola State Prison. Angola is in Louisiana and I live in Louisiana therefore I'm a part owner?? What really ticked me off was that people were using their phones to take pictures, but I had to leave my camera equipment in the car.


I have been to a couple few concerts that were the same, no "professional cameras" but people were using cell phones, when I finally got an answer from promoters, it went like this "people with professional cameras are here to make money on there photography! and the fans with cell phones are only getting memorabilia!!!"
I argued to no avail!! closed minds!!
BUT , then again I have been to concerts where they don't even care!!!
Bonnie Raitt's security will confiscate phones if you are caught taking photos!!

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