greymule Loc: Colorado

Anyone have thoughts on whether to use a warming gel over the flash (or flashes) when using supplemental lighting in a narrow canyon? The reflected sunlight in the canyon is very warm.

How about "painting" in a night photo? Warming gel or no? One of the light sources I intend to try is a-

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If a warming gel is in order, how warm should it be?

Here are a couple of canyon examples below-

As for light painting at night, the third image was generally what I had in mind.

Any and all help is greatly appreciated.

docrob Loc: Durango, Colorado

Greymule, when I look at #3 I don't see light painting - i see an exposure taken over a period of several hours.........I guess at the end of that period when one has "captured" the stars they could take a flash light and light up one corner of the frame.......and maybe thats a detail that makes the shot - i don't know - for me the stars are the subject everything else is just a frame.......

flashing the slots??? could that be sacriligious?

I think you will figure this all out for yourself with no problems and then please post the results cuz I know they will be good.

greymule Loc: Colorado

Greymule, when I look at #3 I don't see light painting - i see an exposure taken over a period of several hours.........I guess at the end of that period when one has "captured" the stars they could take a flash light and light up one corner of the frame.......and maybe thats a detail that makes the shot - i don't know - for me the stars are the subject everything else is just a frame.......

flashing the slots??? could that be sacriligious?

I think you will figure this all out for yourself with no problems and then please post the results cuz I know they will be good.[/quote]

Could be sacrilegious. Despite searching, I've seen no examples. Maybe a new frontier (yeah, right).

I know it will be difficult to balance the lighting, and some dark spots are need to emphasize the light. I just thought I'd give it a try.

Haven't done much night-shooting at all, and have never "painted" with light. I was hoping to find a starting point from some of the brain pool on this site to save some precious time.
Plus, I'm sure a little laziness is figuring in there somewhere.

Thanks for your confidence, though, Doc. I appreciate it and will do my best not to disappoint you.

:lol: :lol:

PNagy Loc: Missouri City, Texas

I wouldn't bother with a warming or cooling gel, because that can be accomplished in seconds via pp. Photoshop CS5 and at least two earlier version have a photo filter menu which allows you to control the color effect, the intensity, and the blending mode.

greymule Loc: Colorado

Good point. Thanks.

docrob Loc: Durango, Colorado

except.....you will not just be coloring already present light - you will be adding light. Right? So simply adding a filter effect in PS will not give you the same look or results as actually popping off a flash in a slot canyon.....will it?

greymule Loc: Colorado

I wouldn't bother with a warming or cooling gel, because that can be accomplished in seconds via pp. Photoshop CS5 and at least two earlier version have a photo filter menu which allows you to control the color effect, the intensity, and the blending mode.[/quote]

Good point. Thanks.[/quote]

except.....you will not just be coloring already present light - you will be adding light. Right? So simply adding a filter effect in PS will not give you the same look or results as actually popping off a flash in a slot canyon.....will it?[/quote]

Probably not exactly. Dang. I guess I should experiment before I go and have some empirical basis for deciding. Maybe post some "experiments" for review and C & C by the hog herd.

docrob Loc: Durango, Colorado

Good point. Thanks.[/quote]

except.....you will not just be coloring already present light - you will be adding light. Right? So simply adding a filter effect in PS will not give you the same look or results as actually popping off a flash in a slot canyon.....will it?[/quote]

Probably not exactly. Dang. I guess I should experiment before I go and have some empirical basis for deciding. Maybe post some "experiments" for review and C & C by the hog herd.[/quote]

Yep probably no where near the same....yep time to go play then post and you can be sure we will respond.

Lucian Loc: From Wales, living in Ohio

Don't bother with gels, just experiment with degrees Kelvin to get the colour you require, through your camera WB settings, then adjust in post for what you may need.

wlgoode Loc: Globe, AZ

Hey greymule-I be in AZ. Where are those slot canyons?

greymule Loc: Colorado

The smaller slot canyons are in Escalante National Monument. Google Peek-A-Boo slot canyon, Spooky slot canyon, Zebra slot canyon, Neon canyon and the Cathedral in Neon canyon.

Wire pass, Buckskin Gulch and Paria Canyon are just over the border from AZ into Utah. Buckskin Gulch and Paria Canyon together make up the longest slot canyon in the world.

Google Wire Pass, Buckskin Gulch and Paria Canyon. These are accessed from between Page, AZ and Kanab, UT. Only 11 more days for me and my Brother-in-law. We'll be spending 7 days in the canyon areas and 6 days in Death Valley National Park.

Peek-a-Boo


Golden Cathedral


Spooky

wlgoode Loc: Globe, AZ

Thanks, Pariah I'm familiar with, as well as Antelope I'll check the others out.