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Oct 31, 2014 12:33:12   #
Pilot 6 Loc: Eugene, OR
 
Street Shot is what I saw at the moment of exposure. Crop Shot was discovered later and has haunted me since. There is something about this noisy image that moves me. I don't know why.

Crop Shot
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Oct 31, 2014 13:35:35   #
Apaflo Loc: Anchorage, Alaska
 
Given that what you presented is very close to a 100% crop, and probably being viewed at near to 1.5X magnification by most viewers...

It is a testiment to the sharpness of the Nikon D5200 camera, and does suggest that the full size image would print very nicely at 20x30 or even larger.

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Nov 2, 2014 12:39:08   #
Pilot 6 Loc: Eugene, OR
 
Hi Apaflo- Thanks very much for your comment---it was the only one I recieved. I don't know how to interpret that----and I can't figure out how you knew that the pix was made with a D5200. At any rate, I do appreciate your observation. Bob

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Nov 2, 2014 13:01:07   #
Uuglypher Loc: South Dakota (East River)
 
Pilot 6 wrote:
Hi Apaflo- Thanks very much for your comment---it was the only one I recieved. I don't know how to interpret that----and I can't figure out how you knew that the pix was made with a D5200. At any rate, I do appreciate your observation. Bob


Apaflo is psychic...and called up your EXIF data.

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Nov 2, 2014 13:30:11   #
Uuglypher Loc: South Dakota (East River)
 
Pilot 6 wrote:
Street Shot is what I saw at the moment of exposure. Crop Shot was discovered later and has haunted me since. There is something about this noisy image that moves me. I don't know why.


I don't know either.

Dave in SD

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Nov 2, 2014 15:08:37   #
Pilot 6 Loc: Eugene, OR
 
Dave in SD-No psychics in this groupe. How do you call up the EXIF on a posted image when the OP hasn't provided it? Bob in E

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Nov 2, 2014 15:38:57   #
Uuglypher Loc: South Dakota (East River)
 
Pilot 6 wrote:
Dave in SD-No psychics in this groupe. How do you call up the EXIF on a posted image when the OP hasn't provided it? Bob in E


open the download image

copy the http address of the download image.

open: http://www.findexif.com

paste the dowmload's http address in the blank space.

click p"OK"

and the EXIF data, if available, will appear.

Dave

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Nov 2, 2014 15:55:20   #
Apaflo Loc: Anchorage, Alaska
 
Pilot 6 wrote:
Dave in SD-No psychics in this groupe. How do you call up the EXIF on a posted image when the OP hasn't provided it? Bob in E

The cropped image in this thread has the basic Exif data, but the full sized original image posted to the other thread has the full Exif data.

When you post an image that is downsized, the displayed image will have the Exif data stripped, but if you have clicked on the "store original" option there will be a button under the displayed image that says "Download". If that is clicked the original, at whatever size it was, will be displayed and if it has Exif data that will not be stripped. You can probably see some of it with your browser by right clicking on the image and then selecting "Properties" from the menu. But selecting "Save file" will download it as a file to your computer and then an external program can be used to see everything. I use exiftool which really will show every bit of information available.

Just for added information, it really is not "EXIF", it's "Exif". That comes from the Standard of Japan Electronics and Information Technology Industries Assocation (JEITA) document CP-3451C called,
"Exchangeable image file format for digital still cameras: Exif Version 2.3", where is is always referenced as "Exif". It's a Japanese thing... :-)

If you are curious, or bored, or whatever, it can be downloaded from this URL: http://home.jeita.or.jp/tsc/std-pdf/CP3451C.pdf

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Nov 2, 2014 16:27:01   #
Pilot 6 Loc: Eugene, OR
 
Thanks Dave. Bob

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Nov 2, 2014 16:39:07   #
Pilot 6 Loc: Eugene, OR
 
Apaflo-- Wow ! I don't know that my ancient brain and computor illiteracy can deal with all of that, but I do thank you for sending it. Bob

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Nov 2, 2014 16:48:00   #
Apaflo Loc: Anchorage, Alaska
 
Pilot 6 wrote:
Apaflo-- Wow ! I don't know that my ancient brain and computor illiteracy can deal with all of that, but I do thank you for sending it. Bob

For most photographers it's just interesting trivia, with little to make it relevant. (If software coders, it can be everything.)

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Nov 2, 2014 17:13:28   #
minniev Loc: MIssissippi
 
Pilot 6 wrote:
Street Shot is what I saw at the moment of exposure. Crop Shot was discovered later and has haunted me since. There is something about this noisy image that moves me. I don't know why.


Welcome to the critique section. We hope you'll continue to share photos and offer your own opinions on the photos that appear here. It's a great place to learn and has helped me develop as a photographer.

I shall try to give you some feedback on the image posted here for critique. I chased down the original image so I could see what you'd cropped it from, so I have looked at both. I will warn you that I am not proclaiming that any of what I say is expert or correct, simply my opinions which is all I have to offer.

I am not sure what the young man(?) represented to you so in that sense, I do not understand the way it moved you. That is, in a sense, irrelevant, because we shouldn't have to explain our photos to our audience, the photos should speak for themselves. But in another sense, therein is the problem here -I am not sure what the image is saying. I am not able to read it sufficiently.

The original image is sharp enough at normal viewing distance but the crop, like many of our more severe crops, does not have sharp enough detail once it "becomes" the total image. There is no detail in the face, and we can't tell what he(?) is doing or feeling. The harsh contrast with the deep shadows over the subject make it even harder. The large shadows area and the papers (menus? newspaper articles? wanted posters?) that take up the top 1/3 of the image aren't adding any information to help us.

When the uncropped version is looked at, I wonder if he(?) is talking to (or swooning over) one of the young ladies who are playing on their cell phones.

I am no street expert, far from it, but I've been told by those more capable that it is almost always a good thing to have eye contact with the people in the photo or have them having eye contact with each other - some sort of interaction taking place. Since I am NOT expert, I have broken this rule repeatedly (watch out, soon I will post another that breaks this rule yet again). I get chastised for it each time, and will again. But they are probably right. The interaction isn't discernible here.

I do hope one of the folks more expert in street photography will respond for you.

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Nov 4, 2014 00:49:59   #
Pilot 6 Loc: Eugene, OR
 
Thank you for your very thoughtful critique. After working about an hour on a response, the curser (I don't know if that's the correct spelling, but it's the right word now) froze up, and in trying to unfreeze it, I seem to have lost what I had written. Gotta hit the sack. More soon.

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Nov 6, 2014 00:15:15   #
Pilot 6 Loc: Eugene, OR
 
Minniev-
Everything you say is on target. The crop has everything wrong with it. Why I am captivated by it is nebulous, but I'll try to explain as best I can: First off, I'm well aware that I had little to do with the image--nothing consciously-- just found it later. For me, her posture is choreographic. She is jesturing towards someone or something we can't see. The papers on the wall are shapes, as is her hair, arm, the can. The low light and great magnification mean much noise and focus softness. I wouldn't be attracted to this abstract image if it were sharp, well lit, correctly composed.
I haven;t explained anything. Thank you profusely for paying attention.

bob

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Nov 6, 2014 10:08:49   #
minniev Loc: MIssissippi
 
Pilot 6 wrote:
Minniev-
Everything you say is on target. The crop has everything wrong with it. Why I am captivated by it is nebulous, but I'll try to explain as best I can: First off, I'm well aware that I had little to do with the image--nothing consciously-- just found it later. For me, her posture is choreographic. She is jesturing towards someone or something we can't see. The papers on the wall are shapes, as is her hair, arm, the can. The low light and great magnification mean much noise and focus softness. I wouldn't be attracted to this abstract image if it were sharp, well lit, correctly composed.
I haven;t explained anything. Thank you profusely for paying attention.

bob
Minniev- br Everything you say is on target. The c... (show quote)


Nice explanation. We all have photos that appeal to us more than to others. Enjoy them anyway! I have had numerous images picked apart by critique, and some I wouldn't even post, that still appeal to me. There's one of those framed in my office, not quite sharp, too dark and way too noisy, but it captured a moment and some light that I won't see again. Always take critique for what it is: other people's opinions. Think about it, try interesting suggestions, and dismiss what is ultimately not helpful. Your photos are yours!

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