A lot has been posted about v**er ID and v***r f***d on this site, a favorite topic of th republicans here. But very little has been foud to offer proof of any real significant v***r f***d. Ohio apparently for instance of 17 cases of v***r f***d in the 2012 e******n. Hardly enough to change the outcome.
However, what should be of greater concern is e******n fraund. This includes cases where not enough polling places are avasilable, or registrations froms lost, or b****ts are lost, or not enough b****t forms are available, or computers that mysteriously go down or register v**es incorrectly. The list goes on and all have happened.
In Ohio in 2004 the computers went down at 11:14 PM . When they came back the lead switched substantially from Kerry to Bush. In 2012 The computer went down again at 11:13. Carl Rove, on FOX News, apparently expected a change to happen again but it didn't happen this time. Read about it here:
http://t***h-out.org/news/item/12845-anonymous-karl-rove-and-2012-e******n-fixIf Republicans are really concerned about honest e******ns they should be directing their energy toward eliminating e******n f***d rather than v***r f***d, which, I truely believe is about v**er suppression.
Batman
Loc: South-Central Texas
Frosty wrote:
A lot has been posted about v**er ID and v***r f***d on this site, a favorite topic of th republicans here. But very little has been foud to offer proof of any real significant v***r f***d. Ohio apparently for instance of 17 cases of v***r f***d in the 2012 e******n. Hardly enough to change the outcome.
However, what should be of greater concern is e******n fraund. This includes cases where not enough polling places are avasilable, or registrations froms lost, or b****ts are lost, or not enough b****t forms are available, or computers that mysteriously go down or register v**es incorrectly. The list goes on and all have happened.
In Ohio in 2004 the computers went down at 11:14 PM . When they came back the lead switched substantially from Kerry to Bush. In 2012 The computer went down again at 11:13. Carl Rove, on FOX News, apparently expected a change to happen again but it didn't happen this time. Read about it here:
http://t***h-out.org/news/item/12845-anonymous-karl-rove-and-2012-e******n-fixIf Republicans are really concerned about honest e******ns they should be directing their energy toward eliminating e******n f***d rather than v***r f***d, which, I truely believe is about v**er suppression.
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Well now...just exactly HOW should the Republicans proceed with this campaign to eliminate E******n F***d, when the current Administration in the White House oversees and controls Federal E******ns...and those folks were all schooled and trained in the "finer points" of E******n Theft, in Chicago, Illinois...(can you say Daley)?
And as far as the 1916 Federal E******ns go, what makes you think that Federal E******ns will be allowed...and if they are, what are the odds that the Chicago crown will allow the v**es to be counted and reported honestly?
Get real!!!
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This has been going on for years and years, by both sides. As long as there are politicians, it will continue; it isn't about to change. A party gloats when such things are in its favor, and it whines when things go the other way. Get used to it.
Frosty wrote:
A lot has been posted about v**er ID and v***r f***d on this site, a favorite topic of th republicans here. But very little has been foud to offer proof of any real significant v***r f***d. Ohio apparently for instance of 17 cases of v***r f***d in the 2012 e******n. Hardly enough to change the outcome.
However, what should be of greater concern is e******n fraund. This includes cases where not enough polling places are avasilable, or registrations froms lost, or b****ts are lost, or not enough b****t forms are available, or computers that mysteriously go down or register v**es incorrectly. The list goes on and all have happened.
In Ohio in 2004 the computers went down at 11:14 PM . When they came back the lead switched substantially from Kerry to Bush. In 2012 The computer went down again at 11:13. Carl Rove, on FOX News, apparently expected a change to happen again but it didn't happen this time. Read about it here:
http://t***h-out.org/news/item/12845-anonymous-karl-rove-and-2012-e******n-fixIf Republicans are really concerned about honest e******ns they should be directing their energy toward eliminating e******n f***d rather than v***r f***d, which, I truely believe is about v**er suppression.
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I understand now. You mean like in two different states recently where when a person v**ed for a Republican candidate the machine logged the v**e for the Democratic candidate. Chicago was one of the cities. Gosh, go figure huh. Those darn old Republicans.
Dennis
bvm
Loc: Glendale, Arizona
The DEMs have done it everywhere they get v**ed in but it only seems to be a problem when the other party does it.
Your map is of Chicago, one of the crookedist cities in America.
Just look who runs Chicago.
Batman wrote:
Well now...just exactly HOW should the Republicans proceed with this campaign to eliminate E******n F***d, when the current Administration in the White House oversees and controls Federal E******ns...and those folks were all schooled and trained in the "finer points" of E******n Theft, in Chicago, Illinois...(can you say Daley)?
And as far as the 1916 Federal E******ns go, what makes you think that Federal E******ns will be allowed...and if they are, what are the odds that the Chicago crown will allow the v**es to be counted and reported honestly?
Get real!!!
:roll:
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you really don't know how anything works do you?
wikipedia wrote:
State law regulates most aspects of the e******n, including primaries, the eligibility of v**ers (beyond the basic constitutional definition), the running of each state's e*******l college, and the running of state and local e******ns.
I wonder how any honest and rational person can consider the IRS intimidation, outright refusal to grant exemptions and organizational delays to any organization with philosophical differences to the Obama administration as anything but v**er suppression? With more and more polling location converting over to digital machines hacking and intentional miscounts are becoming faster and easier. To quote Joseph Stalin: "You know, comrades, that I think in regard to this: I consider it completely unimportant who in the party will v**e, or how; but what is extraordinarily important is this who will count the v**es, and how."
bvm wrote:
The DEMs have done it everywhere they get v**ed in but it only seems to be a problem when the other party does it.
Your map is of Chicago, one of the crookedist cities in America.
Just look who runs Chicago.
Both sides do it... the republicans controlled the e******ns in 2010, so they are the latest culprits... we'll see what happens in 2020.
HEART
Loc: God's Country - COLORADO
user47602 wrote:
Both sides do it... the republicans controlled the e******ns in 2010, so they are the latest culprits... we'll see what happens in 2020.
And some of your buddies helped the situation in 2008
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neGbKHyGuHUGee, look how far the donkeycrats have come!!!
I am not a democrat, and I did not v**e for Obama... do you just make stuff up?
phcaan
Loc: Willow Springs, MO
denoferth wrote:
I wonder how any honest and rational person can consider the IRS intimidation, outright refusal to grant exemptions and organizational delays to any organization with philosophical differences to the Obama administration as anything but v**er suppression? With more and more polling location converting over to digital machines hacking and intentional miscounts are becoming faster and easier. To quote Joseph Stalin: "You know, comrades, that I think in regard to this: I consider it completely unimportant who in the party will v**e, or how; but what is extraordinarily important is this who will count the v**es, and how."
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You should know by now, from reading this forum, that only conservatives can suppress v**es. When the liberals do it, it is the correct and moral thing to do.
user47602 wrote:
Both sides do it... the republicans controlled the e******ns in 2010, so they are the latest culprits... we'll see what happens in 2020.
This is what they want to happen.
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Batman
Loc: South-Central Texas
Yep, that's how it is supposed to work...unless you're part of the Barack Obama crowd who is more than a Dictator, he's two of the three parts of Government...and no one has told him "NO!" Just like Hitler did. :thumbdown:
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