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The Fine Tuning of the Universe- No other feasible explanation but Gods creation
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Nov 6, 2014 15:51:20   #
magicray Loc: Tampa Bay, Florida
 
Racmanaz wrote:
I never post anything about religion
with the exception of the evolution religion. They seem to attempt to divert from what I post about God to a religion, the do this because they can easily find faults in religion and but no faults in God Himself. This is something that the devil himself would do and does do.


Magicray writes: "You could have fooled me. I was under the impression that Christianity was a religion."


Racmanaz wrote: Jesus said in ; John 14:6

Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the t***h, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.

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Nov 7, 2014 09:20:02   #
PNagy Loc: Missouri City, Texas
 
silver wrote:
Your video makes no sense at all either. Just another dumb video.


What do you mean it doesn't make any sense? Didn't you continue to watch the video to near the end, where King David himself was quoted from Psalms? When mythical figures support a case, the game is over.

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Nov 7, 2014 09:42:55   #
PNagy Loc: Missouri City, Texas
 
The concept of the video dealing with the "fine tuning of the Universe" just inverts reality. It states that if physical laws were only slightly changed, life, and even the existence of the Universe itself would not be possible. So far that is true. The big collapse occurs in the conclusion drawn by the narrator/author; this proves these is an intelligent guiding hand behind it. It proves no such thing.

If the laws of physics were altered, a totally different universe with its own laws of physics, chemistry and mathematics would determine all events in it, or perhaps some totally unknown forces. The same thing could be said of them; see, only a slight alteration of these forces would make our universe impossible, therefore an intelligent hand has to be behind everything.

The video is nothing but an elaboration on the tired statement that complexity could not possibly have arisen without a greater complexity creating it. The logic falls apart by making god an exception to the very first premise; stating that though of greater complexity than anything in the Universe, he somehow needed nothing more complex than himself to design him. This is really Aquinas' ontological argument, which I have refuted throughly refuted numerous times, yet Rac keeps serving up the spoiled fare wrapped in strange new appetizers and the same old "lol," which is his version of "yo mamma," the magical line that can rescue all failed logic.

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Nov 7, 2014 13:07:07   #
silver Loc: Santa Monica Ca.
 
PNagy wrote:
The concept of the video dealing with the "fine tuning of the Universe" just inverts reality. It states that if physical laws were only slightly changed, life, and even the existence of the Universe itself would not be possible. So far that is true. The big collapse occurs in the conclusion drawn by the narrator/author; this proves these is an intelligent guiding hand behind it. It proves no such thing.

If the laws of physics were altered, a totally different universe with its own laws of physics, chemistry and mathematics would determine all events in it, or perhaps some totally unknown forces. The same thing could be said of them; see, only a slight alteration of these forces would make our universe impossible, therefore an intelligent hand has to be behind everything.

The video is nothing but an elaboration on the tired statement that complexity could not possibly have arisen without a greater complexity creating it. The logic falls apart by making god an exception to the very first premise; stating that though of greater complexity than anything in the Universe, he somehow needed nothing more complex than himself to design him. This is really Aquinas' ontological argument, which I have refuted throughly refuted numerous times, yet Rac keeps serving up the spoiled fare wrapped in strange new appetizers and the same old "lol," which is his version of "yo mamma," the magical line that can rescue all failed logic.
The concept of the video dealing with the "fi... (show quote)


As I said, the video makes no sense, just another dumb video from rac.

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Nov 7, 2014 13:10:44   #
idaholover Loc: Nampa ID
 
nakkh wrote:
Are you saying you never had my comments deleted? I can prove it so don't deny it.


How do you delete others comments? There are a bunch on here I would love to nuke!

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Nov 7, 2014 13:31:11   #
silver Loc: Santa Monica Ca.
 
Racmanaz wrote:
LOL nice try, give it your best shot on here since this is still open. :)


The subject of fine tuning the universe is so ridiculous it defies any logical comment.

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Nov 7, 2014 13:32:15   #
silver Loc: Santa Monica Ca.
 
Racmanaz wrote:
Dude you are making no sense at all. Come on now, refute this science fact about the fine tuning.


There is no scientific fact concerning fine tuning the universe.

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Nov 7, 2014 13:37:23   #
silver Loc: Santa Monica Ca.
 
Racmanaz wrote:
LOLOL wow! I knew this subject would stump you and the rest of the atheists. Nice try on the diversion but as anyone can see by reading this, you have nothing on your plate to refute this science FACT!


There is no science fact here, only speculation that proves nothing.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fine-tuned_Universe

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Nov 7, 2014 16:44:27   #
nakkh Loc: San Mateo, Ca
 
Rac goes sniveling to the admin & gets the comment removed. Rac admitted he does this on a different thread.
idaholover wrote:
How do you delete others comments? There are a bunch on here I would love to nuke!

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Nov 17, 2014 20:38:36   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
I see nobody attempts to refute this scientific fact that even most scientist know it's true. I heard nothing but whining and insults, that's because they are unable to refute it because it stands on it's own :)

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Nov 17, 2014 20:52:09   #
silver Loc: Santa Monica Ca.
 
Racmanaz wrote:
I see nobody attempts to refute this scientific fact that even most scientist know it's true. I heard nothing but whining and insults, that's because they are unable to refute it because it stands on it's own :)


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA what a maroon

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Nov 17, 2014 21:49:25   #
nakkh Loc: San Mateo, Ca
 
Hampsters power the sun. Refute that.

Racmanaz wrote:
I see nobody attempts to refute this scientific fact that even most scientist know it's true. I heard nothing but whining and insults, that's because they are unable to refute it because it stands on it's own :)

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