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Feb 15, 2012 01:54:54   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
You can't directly change white balance for jpegs in Elements 10. But it does have a feature to "remove color cast". It gives you an eyedropper that you click on something you think is white, black, or grey and it does the rest. You can undo and try different things in your photo till you are a happy camper.

I used it just the other day but would have to use the Help to find it again.

I'm really enjoying Elements since I got Kebly and Klowkowski's book but there are so many options to do things it will be a long time before I have it mastered without using the Help or other resources.

PS: You can open jpegs in Adobe Camera Raw (ACR) with the Elements 10 editor doing "Open As" and then selecting RAW. But it won't help this issue directly because the white balance option isn't available if the original was a jpeg.

Moose wrote:
Shooting JPG. Hate to appear dumb, but where in elements can you change the WB settings? Thanks.


BigBear wrote:
Are you shooting RAW or JPG?

You can try different WB settings in Elements to see if it helps.

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Feb 15, 2012 09:43:29   #
Moose Loc: North Carolina
 
Thanks, I'll give that a try. I didn't think this was possible, but will soon see.


rlcarney5195 wrote:
If you have a later version of Elements (I have 9), then you can open the .jpg file as camera raw and you have some limited control of the white balance. You also have other controls that I find easier to adjust then the tools in Elements proper. To open in camera raw, you need to click File/save as. Then set the type to camera raw before you select the file you want to open. Once the type is set to Camera Raw, then select the desired file and click open. The file is opened in a whole new world with a number of options to select and adjust.
If you have a later version of Elements (I have 9)... (show quote)

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Feb 15, 2012 09:45:37   #
Moose Loc: North Carolina
 
I've found that "remove color cast" and it does remove the blue tint. Turns it grey. I may scrap all these pics since they aren't really all that sharp to begin with. Thanks for the tip.

MtnMan wrote:
You can't directly change white balance for jpegs in Elements 10. But it does have a feature to "remove color cast". It gives you an eyedropper that you click on something you think is white, black, or grey and it does the rest. You can undo and try different things in your photo till you are a happy camper.

I used it just the other day but would have to use the Help to find it again.

I'm really enjoying Elements since I got Kebly and Klowkowski's book but there are so many options to do things it will be a long time before I have it mastered without using the Help or other resources.

PS: You can open jpegs in Adobe Camera Raw (ACR) with the Elements 10 editor doing "Open As" and then selecting RAW. But it won't help this issue directly because the white balance option isn't available if the original was a jpeg.

Moose wrote:
Shooting JPG. Hate to appear dumb, but where in elements can you change the WB settings? Thanks.


BigBear wrote:
Are you shooting RAW or JPG?

You can try different WB settings in Elements to see if it helps.
You can't directly change white balance for jpegs ... (show quote)

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Feb 15, 2012 15:50:14   #
travlnman46 Loc: Yakima WA
 
Moose wrote:
I've found that "remove color cast" and it does remove the blue tint. Turns it grey. I may scrap all these pics since they aren't really all that sharp to begin with. Thanks for the tip.

MtnMan wrote:
You can't directly change white balance for jpegs in Elements 10. But it does have a feature to "remove color cast". It gives you an eyedropper that you click on something you think is white, black, or grey and it does the rest. You can undo and try different things in your photo till you are a happy camper.

I used it just the other day but would have to use the Help to find it again.

I'm really enjoying Elements since I got Kebly and Klowkowski's book but there are so many options to do things it will be a long time before I have it mastered without using the Help or other resources.

PS: You can open jpegs in Adobe Camera Raw (ACR) with the Elements 10 editor doing "Open As" and then selecting RAW. But it won't help this issue directly because the white balance option isn't available if the original was a jpeg.

Moose wrote:
Shooting JPG. Hate to appear dumb, but where in elements can you change the WB settings? Thanks.


BigBear wrote:
Are you shooting RAW or JPG?

You can try different WB settings in Elements to see if it helps.
You can't directly change white balance for jpegs ... (show quote)
I've found that "remove color cast" and ... (show quote)


Hi moose: before you scrap thise pix try downloading Picasa, it's free. Then bring you picture into the program and press "I'm feeling lucky". Nothing ventured nothing gained... Worth a try at least.

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Feb 15, 2012 17:13:11   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
You can try uploading your best one whilst checking the box "(store original)". Then folks can play with it and give you both visual feedback as to what they can accomplish and info on how to do it. Many (including myself) enjoy practicing with such challenges to explore the possibilities.

The reason to check "(store original)" is that they can then see the picture information and have a much higher resolution pic to work with. Otherwise they only get to work with the low resolution thumbnails UHH uploads by default.

On the other hand if you don't like folks messing with your pics that's fine too.



Moose wrote:
I've found that "remove color cast" and it does remove the blue tint. Turns it grey. I may scrap all these pics since they aren't really all that sharp to begin with. Thanks for the tip.

MtnMan wrote:
You can't directly change white balance for jpegs in Elements 10. But it does have a feature to "remove color cast". It gives you an eyedropper that you click on something you think is white, black, or grey and it does the rest. You can undo and try different things in your photo till you are a happy camper.

I used it just the other day but would have to use the Help to find it again.

I'm really enjoying Elements since I got Kebly and Klowkowski's book but there are so many options to do things it will be a long time before I have it mastered without using the Help or other resources.

PS: You can open jpegs in Adobe Camera Raw (ACR) with the Elements 10 editor doing "Open As" and then selecting RAW. But it won't help this issue directly because the white balance option isn't available if the original was a jpeg.

Moose wrote:
Shooting JPG. Hate to appear dumb, but where in elements can you change the WB settings? Thanks.


BigBear wrote:
Are you shooting RAW or JPG?

You can try different WB settings in Elements to see if it helps.
You can't directly change white balance for jpegs ... (show quote)
I've found that "remove color cast" and ... (show quote)

Reply
Feb 20, 2012 10:30:20   #
Moose Loc: North Carolina
 
Here's one that isn't too bad. Wish it were sharper, but maybe you can improve on it by removing the blue cast. Thanks in advance for trying.

MtnMan wrote:
You can try uploading your best one whilst checking the box "(store original)". Then folks can play with it and give you both visual feedback as to what they can accomplish and info on how to do it. Many (including myself) enjoy practicing with such challenges to explore the possibilities.

The reason to check "(store original)" is that they can then see the picture information and have a much higher resolution pic to work with. Otherwise they only get to work with the low resolution thumbnails UHH uploads by default.

On the other hand if you don't like folks messing with your pics that's fine too.



Moose wrote:
I've found that "remove color cast" and it does remove the blue tint. Turns it grey. I may scrap all these pics since they aren't really all that sharp to begin with. Thanks for the tip.

MtnMan wrote:
You can't directly change white balance for jpegs in Elements 10. But it does have a feature to "remove color cast". It gives you an eyedropper that you click on something you think is white, black, or grey and it does the rest. You can undo and try different things in your photo till you are a happy camper.

I used it just the other day but would have to use the Help to find it again.

I'm really enjoying Elements since I got Kebly and Klowkowski's book but there are so many options to do things it will be a long time before I have it mastered without using the Help or other resources.

PS: You can open jpegs in Adobe Camera Raw (ACR) with the Elements 10 editor doing "Open As" and then selecting RAW. But it won't help this issue directly because the white balance option isn't available if the original was a jpeg.

Moose wrote:
Shooting JPG. Hate to appear dumb, but where in elements can you change the WB settings? Thanks.


BigBear wrote:
Are you shooting RAW or JPG?

You can try different WB settings in Elements to see if it helps.
You can't directly change white balance for jpegs ... (show quote)
I've found that "remove color cast" and ... (show quote)
You can try uploading your best one whilst checkin... (show quote)

Blue Egret
Blue Egret...

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Feb 20, 2012 10:40:50   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
Moose wrote:
Here's one that isn't too bad. Wish it were sharper, but maybe you can improve on it by removing the blue cast. Thanks in advance for trying.

MtnMan wrote:
You can try uploading your best one whilst checking the box "(store original)". Then folks can play with it and give you both visual feedback as to what they can accomplish and info on how to do it. Many (including myself) enjoy practicing with such challenges to explore the possibilities.

The reason to check "(store original)" is that they can then see the picture information and have a much higher resolution pic to work with. Otherwise they only get to work with the low resolution thumbnails UHH uploads by default.

On the other hand if you don't like folks messing with your pics that's fine too.



Moose wrote:
I've found that "remove color cast" and it does remove the blue tint. Turns it grey. I may scrap all these pics since they aren't really all that sharp to begin with. Thanks for the tip.

MtnMan wrote:
You can't directly change white balance for jpegs in Elements 10. But it does have a feature to "remove color cast". It gives you an eyedropper that you click on something you think is white, black, or grey and it does the rest. You can undo and try different things in your photo till you are a happy camper.

I used it just the other day but would have to use the Help to find it again.

I'm really enjoying Elements since I got Kebly and Klowkowski's book but there are so many options to do things it will be a long time before I have it mastered without using the Help or other resources.

PS: You can open jpegs in Adobe Camera Raw (ACR) with the Elements 10 editor doing "Open As" and then selecting RAW. But it won't help this issue directly because the white balance option isn't available if the original was a jpeg.

Moose wrote:
Shooting JPG. Hate to appear dumb, but where in elements can you change the WB settings? Thanks.


BigBear wrote:
Are you shooting RAW or JPG?

You can try different WB settings in Elements to see if it helps.
You can't directly change white balance for jpegs ... (show quote)
I've found that "remove color cast" and ... (show quote)
You can try uploading your best one whilst checkin... (show quote)
Here's one that isn't too bad. Wish it were sharp... (show quote)



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Feb 20, 2012 10:44:20   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
Something interesting. If I do the "remove color cast" thing again to go after the yellowish on the lower neck it turns blue again.

I just learned you can keep clicking on different spots to try and it does the correction for that spot. You can keep trying till you get a mix you like. Pretty neat tool!

BTW I can see in Exif data your white balance was set to "Tungsten". That is the cause of the problem. I suggest "Auto" for most cases but on more important shots I am going to keep, like your eagret, I most often shoot in RAW and adjust later in ACR. I usually then prefer cloudy or shade even though shot in bright sun.

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Feb 20, 2012 11:12:29   #
professorwheeze Loc: Maine, USA
 
How is this?



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Feb 20, 2012 11:22:51   #
Moose Loc: North Carolina
 
That was quick. Definitely looks better. I'm now keeping the WB on Auto for most shots, but need to keep in mind that on cloudy days, I should change it to Cloudy. Thanks for working on the pic.

MtnMan wrote:
Something interesting. If I do the "remove color cast" thing again to go after the yellowish on the lower neck it turns blue again.

I just learned you can keep clicking on different spots to try and it does the correction for that spot. You can keep trying till you get a mix you like. Pretty neat tool!

BTW I can see in Exif data your white balance was set to "Tungsten". That is the cause of the problem. I suggest "Auto" for most cases but on more important shots I am going to keep, like your eagret, I most often shoot in RAW and adjust later in ACR. I usually then prefer cloudy or shade even though shot in bright sun.
Something interesting. If I do the "remove co... (show quote)

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Feb 20, 2012 11:24:12   #
Moose Loc: North Carolina
 
I like how you lighten the water up which makes the Egret look more white. What did you do? Thanks for the help.

professorwheeze wrote:
How is this?

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Feb 20, 2012 11:32:54   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
Professor:

Nice! How'd you get rid of the yellow?

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Feb 20, 2012 11:39:52   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
Ah, found a way.

Enhance/Adjust color/Adjust Hue/saturation. I then put it on the yellow channel and pulled the saturation slider to the left.

MtnMan wrote:
Professor:

Nice! How'd you get rid of the yellow?



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Feb 20, 2012 11:58:19   #
Moose Loc: North Carolina
 
Thanks all. Now I'll play around with the rest of the pictures and hope I can salvage some.


MtnMan wrote:
Ah, found a way.

Enhance/Adjust color/Adjust Hue/saturation. I then put it on the yellow channel and pulled the saturation slider to the left.

MtnMan wrote:
Professor:

Nice! How'd you get rid of the yellow?

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Feb 20, 2012 12:08:56   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
Best of success! If they are like this one they are worth saving.

Moose wrote:
Thanks all. Now I'll play around with the rest of the pictures and hope I can salvage some.


MtnMan wrote:
Ah, found a way.

Enhance/Adjust color/Adjust Hue/saturation. I then put it on the yellow channel and pulled the saturation slider to the left.

MtnMan wrote:
Professor:

Nice! How'd you get rid of the yellow?

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