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Oct 21, 2014 17:06:44   #
Sirius_one Loc: S.F. Bay Area
 
My niece is getting her first DSLR and wondered if the Canon D70 with 4-5.6 55-250 lens or a Nikon 4-5.6 55-300 would be a better camera for wildlife photography and for a DSLR beginner.

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Oct 21, 2014 17:15:29   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
Sirius_one wrote:
My niece is getting her first DSLR and wondered if the Canon D70 with 4-5.6 55-250 lens or a Nikon 4-5.6 55-300 would be a better camera for wildlife photography and for a DSLR beginner.


Sirius, I would get the 70d, it's newer tech.
Ultimately Canon's make better wildlife cameras unless you spend a lot more money of course. As she gets more and more into wildlife the advantages start to get more pronounced.
Maybe you or her parents could help her out a little and get her into a 7dmkll.
But a used 7d with a better lens might be a better way to go at this point in her career. :thumbup:
SS

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Oct 21, 2014 17:21:21   #
Nikonian72 Loc: Chico CA
 
Do you mean a current Canon 70D: http://www.kenrockwell.com/canon/70d.htm
vs a 10-year old Nikon D70: http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d70.htm
There is no comparison between the two. What model Canon and what model Nikon cameras are you considering?

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Oct 21, 2014 17:23:15   #
blackest Loc: Ireland
 
Sirius_one wrote:
My niece is getting her first DSLR and wondered if the Canon D70 with 4-5.6 55-250 lens or a Nikon 4-5.6 55-300 would be a better camera for wildlife photography and for a DSLR beginner.


um your saying

canon D70 ? 70D with 55-250mm lens (f4 - f5.6)
nikon ??? with 55-300 mm lens (f4 - f5.6)

it needs a bit more information really, the longer lens might help but then you do not know the lens quality or who makes it. Or what it has in the way of stabilization, auto focus, CA, weight, rotating or fixed front element, weather proofing even.


To be fair its the lens that matters more than the body most of the time in normal outdoor lighting (better sensors higher iso low noise matter at the extremes).

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Oct 21, 2014 17:30:56   #
ggttc Loc: TN
 
Let me throw a wrench in the gears here...personally I would suggest a good bridge camera...sx50 or the new sx60...

They are great for wildlife...and exceptional for a beginner.

Check out the posts from "sleepydrdr" here...

Just a thought.

I have the 55-300 VR Nikon...fair lens but not a great one

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Oct 21, 2014 17:31:23   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
A. Canon 70D has been rated just behind the 7D among Canon crop sensor cameras for wildlife. 7D is now down to a few hundred more, if wildlife and birds is the main goal then the 7D might be better. (or wait and save for a 7D Mk II)
If she will do a lot of general photography then the 70D will do both jobs well.
B. That lens is kinda slow, but will do the job in good light. She may decide it is also a little lacking in range unless she can get pretty close. The 70-300 EF for $400 more would give her a lot more reach and will go on a FF body in case of future updates.
C. Which Nikon body is she thinking of? You can use Nikon lenses on Canon bodies, with an adapter. But why bother when Canon lenses were made to work on their bodies? For Nikon bodies one of our Nikon users can give advice.
D. The advice to look at the SX50/60 might be the best idea, esp the 60.
Sirius_one wrote:
My niece is getting her first DSLR and wondered if the Canon D70 with 4-5.6 55-250 lens or a Nikon 4-5.6 55-300 would be a better camera for wildlife photography and for a DSLR beginner.

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Oct 21, 2014 18:39:08   #
ggttc Loc: TN
 
Sirius_one wrote:
My niece is getting her first DSLR and wondered if the Canon D70 with 4-5.6 55-250 lens or a Nikon 4-5.6 55-300 would be a better camera for wildlife photography and for a DSLR beginner.


If you would like I can post a few pics of wildlife my wife took with the sx 50 and sx 60 and you can show them to your niece.

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Oct 21, 2014 20:17:05   #
Sirius_one Loc: S.F. Bay Area
 
SharpShooter wrote:
Sirius, I would get the 70d, it's newer tech.
Ultimately Canon's make better wildlife cameras unless you spend a lot more money of course. As she gets more and more into wildlife the advantages start to get more pronounced.
Maybe you or her parents could help her out a little and get her into a 7dmkll.
But a used 7d with a better lens might be a better way to go at this point in her career. :thumbup:
SS

Thank you for your suggestions, she is planning to buy a new camera, I will let her know about the lens.

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Oct 21, 2014 20:18:38   #
Sirius_one Loc: S.F. Bay Area
 
Nikonian72 wrote:
Do you mean a current Canon 70D: http://www.kenrockwell.com/canon/70d.htm
vs a 10-year old Nikon D70: http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d70.htm
There is no comparison between the two. What model Canon and what model Nikon cameras are you considering?


She is planning a new camera, I do not know which model. Thank you for your answer.

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Oct 21, 2014 20:21:09   #
Sirius_one Loc: S.F. Bay Area
 
blackest wrote:
um your saying

canon D70 ? 70D with 55-250mm lens (f4 - f5.6)
nikon ??? with 55-300 mm lens (f4 - f5.6)

it needs a bit more information really, the longer lens might help but then you do not know the lens quality or who makes it. Or what it has in the way of stabilization, auto focus, CA, weight, rotating or fixed front element, weather proofing even.

I will mention that she should buy the highest quality lens. Thank you for your comment.


To be fair its the lens that matters more than the body most of the time in normal outdoor lighting (better sensors higher iso low noise matter at the extremes).
um your saying br br canon D70 ? 70D with 55-250... (show quote)

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Oct 21, 2014 20:22:49   #
Sirius_one Loc: S.F. Bay Area
 
ggttc wrote:
Let me throw a wrench in the gears here...personally I would suggest a good bridge camera...sx50 or the new sx60...

They are great for wildlife...and exceptional for a beginner.

Check out the posts from "sleepydrdr" here...

Just a thought.

I have the 55-300 VR Nikon...fair lens but not a great

one


Thank you, I will pass your suggestion for a bridge camera along.

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Oct 21, 2014 20:31:53   #
Sirius_one Loc: S.F. Bay Area
 
robertjerl wrote:
A. Canon 70D has been rated just behind the 7D among Canon crop sensor cameras for wildlife. 7D is now down to a few hundred more, if wildlife and birds is the main goal then the 7D might be better. (or wait and save for a 7D Mk II)
If she will do a lot of general photography then the 70D will do both jobs well.
B. That lens is kinda slow, but will do the job in good light. She may decide it is also a little lacking in range unless she can get pretty close. The 70-300 EF for $400 more would give her a lot more reach and will go on a FF body in case of future updates.

C. Which Nikon body is she thinking of? You can use Nikon lenses on Canon bodies, with an adapter. But why bother when Canon lenses were made to work on their bodies? For Nikon bodies one of our Nikon users can give advice.
D. The advice to look at the SX50/60 might be the best idea, esp the 60.
A. Canon 70D has been rated just behind the 7D am... (show quote)


Thank you for your answer, I will have to ask her more questions about the models at which she is looking. A bridge camera sound like a good idea as several Hoggers suggest , I will mention that to her.

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Oct 21, 2014 20:31:53   #
Sirius_one Loc: S.F. Bay Area
 
robertjerl wrote:
A. Canon 70D has been rated just behind the 7D among Canon crop sensor cameras for wildlife. 7D is now down to a few hundred more, if wildlife and birds is the main goal then the 7D might be better. (or wait and save for a 7D Mk II)
If she will do a lot of general photography then the 70D will do both jobs well.
B. That lens is kinda slow, but will do the job in good light. She may decide it is also a little lacking in range unless she can get pretty close. The 70-300 EF for $400 more would give her a lot more reach and will go on a FF body in case of future updates.

C. Which Nikon body is she thinking of? You can use Nikon lenses on Canon bodies, with an adapter. But why bother when Canon lenses were made to work on their bodies? For Nikon bodies one of our Nikon users can give advice.
D. The advice to look at the SX50/60 might be the best idea, esp the 60.
A. Canon 70D has been rated just behind the 7D am... (show quote)


Thank you for your answer, I will have to ask her more questions about the models at which she is looking. A bridge camera sound like a good idea as several Hoggers suggest , I will mention that to her.

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Oct 21, 2014 20:33:06   #
Sirius_one Loc: S.F. Bay Area
 
ggttc wrote:
If you would like I can post a few pics of wildlife my wife took with the sx 50 and sx 60 and you can show them to your niece.


Thank you, that would be helpful as I will be able to pass them on.

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Oct 22, 2014 06:19:12   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
Sirius_one wrote:
My niece is getting her first DSLR and wondered if the Canon D70 with 4-5.6 55-250 lens or a Nikon 4-5.6 55-300 would be a better camera for wildlife photography and for a DSLR beginner.


I am a Nikon guy, but I would have no hesitation recommending a Canon body and lens, just not that particular lens. Optically it is fine, but auto focus accuracy can be dodgy at 250mm. I prefer the 70-300 for a beginner wildlife shooter. Better quality, better AF, faster focusing, less hunting. But both are good examples of how Canon makes really good value-oriented products.

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