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Oct 21, 2014 09:39:27   #
ralphc4176 Loc: Conyers, GA
 
If you are familiar with operation of a PC/Windows, I would recommend that you buy a new PC. Costs less, more software available, and PCs have more available upgrades and accessories than Apple/Mac.

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Oct 21, 2014 09:40:23   #
Stanley Fleming Loc: Maine/Florida
 
elliott937 wrote:
How many times and how often would you plan to replace your PC? I began in 1995 by purchasing Photoshop and installed it on my desk top PC. Gateway, then HP, then Sony Vio. Each time replacing a PC that lasted about two years before seeing the Blue Screen of Death at least once a week if not once a day. Then in 2005, after three PCs, I purchased an Apple iMac. It's 2014 and that computer continues to sit on my side desk totally functioning. That's eleven years.

I'm now using a 27" Intel iMac, only because Photoshop changed its software to work only on the Intel chip, so I had to buy the newest iMac .. with the Intel chip. That was 2009, and that computer still functions perfectly, and I plan to continue using it, the same iMac, in 2020, or longer. Why not?

So Mac is more expensive, to purchase initially. But it sure is inexpensive in the long run. Oh, by the way, I've never seen a Blue Screen of Death in a Mac.

I also have a Mac Book Pro that I use to teach with. I initially began doing that when a dear friend of mine gave me her 10 year old Mac Book, which I began to use in my class for Power Point, actually Keynote which is Apple's version of Power Point. So I continued using her 10 year old Mac Book for three more years. When Apple put the Mac Book Pro on sale for about $1000, I bought it for peace of mind. But her Mac Book continues to this day, and about to become a teen ager. Do you see the pattern? Buy a Mac, enjoy it being very user friendly, and enjoy how well it works with Adobe products. And enjoy NOT having to replace it because it would stop working properly, because it won't. It just keeps working well. And it sure saves me money.

This needs to be said, because I spent an hour last night listening to a dear friend who is replacing, yet again, a monitor for her desk top. The actual computer was replaced last year. The prior PC tower laster her less than three years. I'll also add what my college students tell me. Their lap tops last them about two years before them become unreliable. Those who bring Mac Books to class tell me they've been using it since high school days. Get the picture?

Peace of mind is priceless.
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I need to reinforce this post - I have not thrown away a Mac yet and have only upgraded to get an Intel chip and then to get a second MacBook Pro so my wife will not need to borrow mine. I expect to be using them for many years to come even though 1 is over 10 years old, the first MacBook pro is over 6 years old and the newest MacBook Pro is 3 years old. I never got those kinds of longevity from a Windows machine.

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Oct 21, 2014 09:43:45   #
aqua
 
I bought a mac three years ago. I have not had to have it fix for any issues. I did up grade to a solid state drive, but that was my choice. My daughter who does not want anything that her mother has ... bought a pc.... less than a year ago and she has had to have it repaired. This is my experience others may have pc that work for years without problems.

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Oct 21, 2014 09:45:29   #
Pathdoc
 
When I was running a PC, I had significant virus problems at least several times a year. One infected the "root" and I lost the contents of the entire drive. I have had my iMac for about five years and never had one virus problem.

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Oct 21, 2014 10:40:32   #
GaryS1964 Loc: Northern California
 
It's a software thing. Not all PC based software is available for a MAC. Some MAC software is not available for a PC. Decide what apps you will want to run and especially ones you can't live without and see if they have versions for both platforms. If not your decision is made. If they do then the decision becomes more difficult.

I'm a PC guy. They say MAC's do graphics better. I don't know. If your primary purpose to own a computer is to process photos and/or video and you are a pro or a very serious hobbyist then take a look at the MAC. If not stick with what you know.

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Oct 21, 2014 10:57:42   #
Phylinpagosa
 
I have had Apple computers since 1997 and love them. They are very user friendly and by the way have a great photo editing program---Phyl in Colorado

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Oct 21, 2014 10:58:03   #
JaiGieEse Loc: Foxworth, MS
 
nakkh wrote:
PC is cheaper, more flexible with more apps and hardware choices. Mac is more expensive, but some say, more user friendly. It's sorta like the Nikon / Canon argument. Both platforms are awesome so get what suits your personal tastes.


As has been said, get thee to a computer store and try both. Use what's comfortable for you. But I will say that there is no way that a PC is more flexible than a Mac.

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Oct 21, 2014 11:00:03   #
mborn Loc: Massachusetts
 
I started in computers with a Mac but at that time with work it could not run the programs that I needed so I changed to Windows. This is another one you pays your money and takes your choice. Both are good

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Oct 21, 2014 11:01:24   #
Wingpilot Loc: Wasilla. Ak
 
I like the Apple system, and it's not difficult to learn, although dealing with iTunes can be frustrating. I went from a PC to a Mac with no diffuculty. It's fairly intuitive.

The problem with a Mac, especially the laptops, is that the memory that comes with it is the memory you are stuck with, so make sure, if you go the Mac way, that whatever you might get comes with the memory and storage you want and need. Yes, the Mac is more expensive, but, IMO, worth it. The Macs have fewer issues, OS X is less confusing than Windows 8.xx, and less subject to malware, adware and viruses. If you can afford the extra cost, I think it's a good way to go. I recently attempted to go with a Macbook Air, but junked the idea due to the limited memory and small screen. I just couldn't afford anything larger, but that's a different story. I do like my iMac desktop, though.

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Oct 21, 2014 11:09:25   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
nakkh wrote:
PC is cheaper, more flexible with more apps and hardware choices. Mac is more expensive, but some say, more user friendly. It's sorta like the Nikon / Canon argument. Both platforms are awesome so get what suits your personal tastes.


Exactly. I'm a PC guy precisely because I like to do things my way. Mac's are way more restrictive, like iPhones. There are also way fewer mainstream applications available for Mac's. But for editing photos they are both pretty much on par.

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Oct 21, 2014 11:11:09   #
splitwindow Loc: Grapevine TX
 
ralphc4176 wrote:
If you are familiar with operation of a PC/Windows, I would recommend that you buy a new PC. Costs less, more software available, and PCs have more available upgrades and accessories than Apple/Mac.


You obviously know nothing about Mac computers! Exactly what software for PC's is not available for Mac's except for some games. I run all of Office, Perfect Photo Suite, Photoshop CS6, Photoshop Elements, Photomatix Pro 5, PDF Pen, Business Card Composer 5, Filemaker Pro, NX2, Lightroom 5, iPhoto, Pages, Keynote, numbers, etc. Exactly what program do you have on your PC that I possible would want on my MAC?

I see this post about how the software on the MAC is limited compared to the PC which is always posted by PC users that know nothing about what software is available for the MAC.

More upgrades and accessories on the PC, you must be kidding!
Again, exactly what upgrades and accessories are you talking about? None that I know of.

I've been an Apple user for 30 years, have converted almost every person I know to the MAC platform and every single one on them say the same thing, "I wish I had listened to you years earlier." Not a single one of them has returned to the PC world.

You will see lots of posts from Mac users that say they "Love" their computers, I've never seen a PC user say they "Love" their PC.

I'm writing this on a 17" Macbook Pro that I bought on Ebay for about 40% of it's original price. It's like new and has a 2.3 Ghz Intel Core i7, 1Tb hard drive, anti-glare screen, 8 GB of memory that I getting ready to upgrade to 16 GB's. I have 3 of these 17" beauties and have upgraded the memory in all of them, take about 30 minutes to do. All four of my kids have MAC's and I've upgraded the memory and hard drives in all of their computers. Takes less then 30 minutes.

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Oct 21, 2014 11:12:35   #
Pathdoc
 
I upgraded by iMac RAM to 20 GB because of my work with photos. There are web sites that will help you determine the appropriate RAM chips to use for your iMac model. On my iMac, there is a small metal panel at the bottom of the monitor that you remove and then just slide in the RAM chips. Takes five minutes and there are Youtube videos describing the process. The cost of the chips on the web is a fraction of what is charged at the Apple stores.

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Oct 21, 2014 11:14:55   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
Far North wrote:
I like the Apple system, and it's not difficult to learn, although dealing with iTunes can be frustrating. I went from a PC to a Mac with no diffuculty. It's fairly intuitive.

The problem with a Mac, especially the laptops, is that the memory that comes with it is the memory you are stuck with, so make sure, if you go the Mac way, that whatever you might get comes with the memory and storage you want and need. Yes, the Mac is more expensive, but, IMO, worth it. The Macs have fewer issues, OS X is less confusing than Windows 8.xx, and less subject to malware, adware and viruses. If you can afford the extra cost, I think it's a good way to go. I recently attempted to go with a Macbook Air, but junked the idea due to the limited memory and small screen. I just couldn't afford anything larger, but that's a different story. I do like my iMac desktop, though.
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Yes Macs are subject to less adware, viruses and such as a results of their very restrictive approach, which suits some people's personalities. It's either Apple's way, or the highway. I want to more freedom in my computing environment. And like in life, freedom also comes with risks and responsibilities.

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Oct 21, 2014 11:17:39   #
Wingpilot Loc: Wasilla. Ak
 
Pathdoc wrote:
I upgraded by iMac RAM to 20 GB because of my work with photos. There are web sites that will help you determine the appropriate RAM chips to use for your iMac model. On my iMac, there is a small metal panel at the bottom of the monitor that you remove and then just slide in the RAM chips. Takes five minutes and there are Youtube videos describing the process. The cost of the chips on the web is a fraction of what is charged at the Apple stores.


I looked at my iMac and didn't find that removable panel. Maybe the model I have isn't upgradeable? It's the iMac with the 21 1/2" monitor.

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Oct 21, 2014 11:20:19   #
JaiGieEse Loc: Foxworth, MS
 
Pathdoc wrote:
I upgraded by iMac RAM to 20 GB because of my work with photos. There are web sites that will help you determine the appropriate RAM chips to use for your iMac model. On my iMac, there is a small metal panel at the bottom of the monitor that you remove and then just slide in the RAM chips. Takes five minutes and there are Youtube videos describing the process. The cost of the chips on the web is a fraction of what is charged at the Apple stores.


This is accurate. However, there have been some changes in recent models of the iMac. The 27" still allows the user to upgrade the memory, but the 20" no longer does. In that case, you must specify in advance how much memory you want. Answer is to load it to the max.

Another thing that changes is the published specs as to how much memory a machine will use. When I bought my 27" iMac back in 2010, Apple stated that 16 gigs was the max it would run. However, you can now get 8 gig cards, and with four slots to work with, this would allow 32 gigs max. I bought the iMac with two 4 gig cards and have since added two 8 gig cards to bring my total to 24 gigs and it works fine.

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