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Iron Ore Dock
Oct 19, 2014 17:40:43 #
This was taken many years ago in an abandoned iron ore dock in Marquette, Michigan on the south shore of Lake Superior. It was taken on b/w film with my 4x5 view camera, and I won't bore you with what it took just to haul my camera, lenses, tripod, etc, into the thing, how many rats I scared up getting there, or how near I came to falling in while climbing over about 200 feet of wooden scaffolding (but I'd try it again in a heartbeat). I'm planning to make a 16x20 for my walls, but I discovered a bit of Newton ringing which doesn't show up in this small image, will need to do a wet scan to eliminate it.
Oct 19, 2014 17:50:55 #
jackm1943 wrote:
This was taken many years ago in an abandoned iron... (show quote)
exceptional geometric recessional perspective ...seems to start the viewer on the ultimate journey to the center of the Cosmos...where the Big Bang occurred...will occur again ?
Monochrome is perfect for such a unequivocally definitive mathematical solution to EVERYTHING?
Now...I'm thinking about getting into scanning. Newton Rings? Is that what I see as a result of imperfect surface contact between the scanner glass and the emulsion surface being scanned? Tell me about wet scanning.
Dave in SD
Oct 19, 2014 18:49:52 #
Uuglypher wrote:
exceptional geometric recessional perspective ...s... (show quote)
Hi Dave, Thanks for the nice comments. Newton's rings are light interference patterns, caused in scanning of film when the film is touching smooth glass, such as a film holder used to keep the film flat. Wiki has a good article on it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton's_rings.
There are several ways to get around them. One is to not let the negs touch smooth glass, but bowing of large negs before and during scanning can become a problem. Another is to use anti-Newton glass (rough surfaced) in the film holders (which I do have but didn't use for this scan years ago). The best is to wet scan in which the neg is bathed in a thin layer of fluid, eliminating Newton's rings and dramatically increasing sharpness and contrast. I've been doing wet scans only a couple of years and still have a lot of old negs to rescan some time. There are any number of articles available if you Google "wet scanning". Check out KAMI Fluid which is probably the most popular and common mounting fluid available.
JackM
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Oct 19, 2014 19:04:15 #
lighthouse
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jackm1943 wrote:
This was taken many years ago in an abandoned iron... (show quote)
I love this sort of image jack and you have done this very well.
Beautiful simplistic strong form and function, great pattern and shapes.
I see the Newton ringing on my screen in two of the bottom puddles but wouldn't have known what to call it. I would have thought it was just a screen mosaicing thing and wouldn't show in print? Definitely outside my area of expertise anyway.
The image troubled me, as like I said, I do love strong form, lines and pattern etc like this but for some reason the image just didn't sit properly with me, it looked like it was incomplete, or missing something.
I didn't know if it was the angles or what it was.
So I tried a crop. I cropped out the very bottom part hex puddle in the bottom right corner.
And all of a sudden, for me, the image became much stronger and complete.
Have a look and see what you think.
Oct 19, 2014 19:10:02 #
jackm1943 wrote:
This was taken many years ago in an abandoned iron... (show quote)
I really like it. Nice repetitive image and very appealing perspective. I'd say it is well worth any tribulations you went through to get it.
Oct 19, 2014 19:17:00 #
lighthouse wrote:
I love this sort of image jack and you have done t... (show quote)
Yes, that's where the Newton rings are, I didn't think they would show up that well in this small image. As to the "puddles", they are each probably 20 feet or so across, and the water goes clear to the bottom of the lake. The water was exceptionally clear and I couldn't tell if it was 10 or 100 feet deep, gave me a little case of vertigo when looking into them. I will definitely take a look at your crop suggestion before making a larger print.
Thanks, Jack
Oct 19, 2014 19:26:48 #
ebrunner wrote:
I really like it. Nice repetitive image and very appealing perspective. I'd say it is well worth any tribulations you went through to get it.
Thanks Erich, I'd do it again (if I could, it was a good 20 yrs ago).
JackM
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Oct 20, 2014 07:56:10 #
jackm1943 wrote:
This was taken many years ago in an abandoned iron... (show quote)
That is a really fine photograph. Being a large format photographer, also, I can appreciate your comments about the effort to get there.
--Bob
Oct 20, 2014 10:36:27 #
rmalarz wrote:
That is a really fine photograph. Being a large format photographer, also, I can appreciate your comments about the effort to get there.
--Bob
--Bob
Thanks Bob. Do you still wet print or do you scan your LF negs?
JackM
Oct 20, 2014 12:03:58 #
I went one further and cropped the second part-puddle, making a square format - for me, even more dramatic.
lighthouse wrote:
I love this sort of image jack and you have done t... (show quote)
Oct 20, 2014 12:05:32 #
A strong compositional feast of repeating lines in all directions bolstered by excellent processing and exposure. High impact and delightful to view. 8-)
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Oct 20, 2014 13:07:52 #
magnetoman wrote:
I went one further and cropped the second part-puddle, making a square format - for me, even more dramatic.
I like the square, will definitely take a look.
Thanks, JackM
Oct 20, 2014 17:41:41 #
Bmac wrote:
A strong compositional feast of repeating lines in all directions bolstered by excellent processing and exposure. High impact and delightful to view. 8-)
Thanks Bmac, I appreciate your nice comment.
JackM
Oct 20, 2014 18:06:32 #
Tremendous impact. Dramatic composition and technically excellent. I have spent more time looking at this photograph than most others. It gives me a strange feeling that my senses are not working quite right and that the world is tilted to the right. I do not find that sensation unpleasant. On checking I found that the image is perfectly plumb and the effect I felt comes from your offset location and the slope of the roof beams. I have tried the suggested crops and I think the fascination I have with this image would be enhanced by cropping both of the partial pools and a bit off the right side to give you a perfectly square format. Great shot!
Oct 20, 2014 18:24:02 #
lighthouse
Loc: No Fixed Abode
On seeing my original crop I did twig that it was close to square, but wasn't on a machine where I had access to a precise crop and I couldn't get an eyeballed 1:1 to work for me properly.
I had to wait until I was on another computer to see how it went.
1:1 was close but didn't quite suit the lines in the photo.
I ended up at 16 high x 15 wide ratio.
We should crop to the image, not to some generic standard.
I had to wait until I was on another computer to see how it went.
1:1 was close but didn't quite suit the lines in the photo.
I ended up at 16 high x 15 wide ratio.
We should crop to the image, not to some generic standard.
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