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Oct 16, 2014 16:01:45   #
doduce Loc: Holly Springs NC
 
I'm looking at color calibration products. The specs for the x-Rite ColorMunki Display and the Datacolor Spyder4Pro appear to be similar and either look to be what I need. As is typical, both receive glowing praise and damning criticism. I'm looking for insight from those who use either or both of these products. I'm on Win 7 on desktop and laptop.

Thanx.

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Oct 16, 2014 16:06:50   #
speters Loc: Grangeville/Idaho
 
doduce wrote:
I'm looking at color calibration products. The specs for the x-Rite ColorMunki Display and the Datacolor Spyder4Pro appear to be similar and either look to be what I need. As is typical, both receive glowing praise and damning criticism. I'm looking for insight from those who use either or both of these products. I'm on Win 7 on desktop and laptop.

Thanx.

I do not use the color monkey but the X-rite 1i Pro and I'm very happy with it!

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Oct 17, 2014 05:29:41   #
dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida
 
Why do you feel the need for either??? There are calibration charts (digital form) for both brightness and color. They can calibrate the monitor quite well. Also there is calibration built into the software supplied by the video/graphics card manufacturers. Then your are down to compensating for color shift when printing or projection or your HDTV... or local printer. None of which will agree exactly with you "calibrated" monitor!!

Use search at top of the UHH page and search... and read and read.... also check our colour by cambridge... get educated rather than indebted.
http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/monitor-calibration.htm

These devices that "calibrate" are sold to "photographers" who have more money than brains!! Do a little research ... I teach today or I would give you references... gotta get ready for a busy day... have fun with your photography.

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Oct 17, 2014 06:05:12   #
DavidPine Loc: Fredericksburg, TX
 
I use the X-Rite Color Munki and I like it.
doduce wrote:
I'm looking at color calibration products. The specs for the x-Rite ColorMunki Display and the Datacolor Spyder4Pro appear to be similar and either look to be what I need. As is typical, both receive glowing praise and damning criticism. I'm looking for insight from those who use either or both of these products. I'm on Win 7 on desktop and laptop.

Thanx.

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Oct 17, 2014 08:04:17   #
Severums Loc: London, England
 
If it's just monitor calibration without printing then I personally wouldn't bother with either - just charts.

I do use the Datacolor Spyder4Pro, in conjunction with my Epson R1900 using quality inks and paper with the correct ICC profile.

The result is what I see on screen is what I print on paper.

Regards

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Oct 17, 2014 08:51:22   #
Brucej67 Loc: Cary, NC
 
I originally used the Spyder4Pro but switched over to the ColorMunki as I needed to calibrate my printer as well as my display. Now my prints look just the same as what I see on my display.

doduce wrote:
I'm looking at color calibration products. The specs for the x-Rite ColorMunki Display and the Datacolor Spyder4Pro appear to be similar and either look to be what I need. As is typical, both receive glowing praise and damning criticism. I'm looking for insight from those who use either or both of these products. I'm on Win 7 on desktop and laptop.

Thanx.

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Oct 17, 2014 09:31:58   #
jmizera Loc: Austin Texas
 
dpullum wrote:
Why do you feel the need for either??? There are calibration charts (digital form) for both brightness and color. They can calibrate the monitor quite well. Also there is calibration built into the software supplied by the video/graphics card manufacturers. Then your are down to compensating for color shift when printing or projection or your HDTV... or local printer. None of which will agree exactly with you "calibrated" monitor!!

Use search at top of the UHH page and search... and read and read.... also check our colour by cambridge... get educated rather than indebted.
http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/monitor-calibration.htm

These devices that "calibrate" are sold to "photographers" who have more money than brains!! Do a little research ... I teach today or I would give you references... gotta get ready for a busy day... have fun with your photography.
Why do you feel the need for either??? There are c... (show quote)


You simply cannot get the results viewing calibration charts or test patterns that you can with a calibration tool. If your goal is to get your prints as close to what you see on your monitor as possible, this is one of the best investments you can make.

I've only used the Spyder, but have been pleased with the results.

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Oct 17, 2014 09:40:37   #
dsp Loc: Denver, Colorado
 
Brucej67 wrote:
I originally used the Spyder4Pro but switched over to the ColorMunki as I needed to calibrate my printer as well as my display. Now my prints look just the same as what I see on my display.


Bruce,

So, are you saying that with the Color Munki, you are able to calibrate BOTH your monitor and printer? And, if so, how so? Is that what it is specifically designed to do? Or, are you simply doing comparison brightness and color printed test charts and adjusting your monitor to match them? Please elaborate. Thanks.

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Oct 17, 2014 10:34:58   #
Brucej67 Loc: Cary, NC
 
With this ColorMunki http://www.amazon.com/X-Rite-CMUNPH-ColorMunki-Photo/dp/B00169N0BK/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1413556148&sr=8-2&keywords=colormunki+photo+calibration+system you can calibrate both your display and printer. The display is calibrated the same as the Spyder, however the printer calibration is based on the photo paper you use. Using the ColorMunki you build a separate profile for every type of photo paper you use and use that profile when printing. You can learn more about it from the ColorMunki site they have a video showing how it works.

dsp wrote:
Bruce,

So, are you saying that with the Color Munki, you are able to calibrate BOTH your monitor and printer? And, if so, how so? Is that what it is specifically designed to do? Or, are you simply doing comparison brightness and color printed test charts and adjusting your monitor to match them? Please elaborate. Thanks.

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Oct 17, 2014 12:29:00   #
dsp Loc: Denver, Colorado
 
Brucej67 wrote:
With this ColorMunki http://www.amazon.com/X-Rite-CMUNPH-ColorMunki-Photo/dp/B00169N0BK/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1413556148&sr=8-2&keywords=colormunki+photo+calibration+system you can calibrate both your display and printer. The display is calibrated the same as the Spyder, however the printer calibration is based on the photo paper you use. Using the ColorMunki you build a separate profile for every type of photo paper you use and use that profile when printing. You can learn more about it from the ColorMunki site they have a video showing how it works.
With this ColorMunki http://www.amazon.com/X-Rite-... (show quote)


Oh, I see . . .
and it's only $459.00 -- on sale from $499.00.

Such a deal.

Anyway, thanks,
or should I say,
thanks anyway.

I'll keep it in mind.

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Oct 17, 2014 12:47:49   #
Brucej67 Loc: Cary, NC
 
Any calibration tool that can do displays, projectors and printers is going to be expensive. The ColorMunki has a calibrator that just does displays that is on par with the Spyder and costs just as much. But figure if you buy a Spyder for $169 or ColorMunki for $89 and later wanted to print with colors that you see on your monitor the extra $250 would have been worth the investment.

dsp wrote:
Oh, I see . . .
and it's only $459.00 -- on sale from $499.00.

Such a deal.

Anyway, thanks,
or should I say,
thanks anyway.

I'll keep it in mind.

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Oct 17, 2014 13:24:23   #
dsp Loc: Denver, Colorado
 
I don't disagree with you, Bruce.

It's just that where I currently am -- and am not -- the device is, unfortunately, financially unfeasible. Or, at least so far as to where my current focus, needs and priorities are.

I will, however, keep it in mind as a possibility.

So, thanks, again.

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Oct 17, 2014 22:56:34   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
Colormunki here too.

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Oct 17, 2014 23:50:54   #
bibsthecat Loc: Cold Spring MN
 
I used to have a Spyder3Pro. The two monitors I have never were the same, so I suppose you could say the Spyder3Pro was not doing its job. I finally gave up and got a x-Rite ColorMunki and it's great. The two monitors are identical and the prints I get back from Bay Photo match perfectly. For those that say you don't need a calibrator, I strongly disagree.

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Oct 18, 2014 18:03:47   #
doduce Loc: Holly Springs NC
 
Thanx for the input.

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