Germany offers free tuition to U. S. Students
Oct 10, 2014 13:26:42 #
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/10/10/1335669/-Germany-offers-free-college-tuition-to-U-S-and-international-students
If they can do it, why can't we?
If they can do it, why can't we?
Oct 10, 2014 13:52:27 #
cneajna wrote:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/10/10/1335669/-Germany-offers-free-college-tuition-to-U-S-and-international-students
If they can do it, why can't we?
If they can do it, why can't we?
What do you ask us to do? Give free tuition to German students?
Oct 10, 2014 13:54:31 #
Oct 10, 2014 14:45:39 #
cneajna wrote:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/10/10/1335669/-Germany-offers-free-college-tuition-to-U-S-and-international-students
If they can do it, why can't we?
If they can do it, why can't we?
It's a shame our country has to lag so far behind Europe. My heart goes out to those people who owe the government so much and the damn gov't is making money on the backs of college students. That interest is ridiculous. Another minus for the US. :(
Oct 10, 2014 15:13:03 #
Here's a crazy idea. Let's set up a system for higher education similar to Medicare. We can pay a school tax like we pay a Medicare tax. When we hit 18 or whatever, we simply apply to college and then the school is reimbursed by the government. Just like Medicare, reimbursements are set by the government, so a school can choose to participate or not, but must accept the reimbursement rate. It just might put a lid on the unbelievable jumps in the cost of higher education, and make it available to a whole lot more of the population.
Oct 10, 2014 15:26:11 #
tschmath wrote:
Here's a crazy idea. Let's set up a system for hi... (show quote)
I have a hard time imagining that the government would run that system well or use it to effectively control costs, but it is possible. It's also possible that the next pope will be Jewish, but I'm not counting on it.
Do you think that higher education costs would have reached their ridiculous heights without the availability of cheap money? Whether that cheap money comes in the form of student loans or some more direct government subsidies, there needs to be an incentive for the schools to control costs and provide efficacious services.
Oct 10, 2014 15:41:17 #
PrairieSeasons wrote:
I have a hard time imagining that the government w... (show quote)
Considering the interest charged it's not really "cheap" money. And given the fact our govt makes huge profits on the backs of students, maybe it's time for us to rethink how students pay for their school?
Oct 10, 2014 15:41:52 #
PrairieSeasons wrote:
What do you ask us to do? Give free tuition to German students?
I'm guessing that was comedic sarcasm.
Oct 10, 2014 15:46:31 #
cneajna wrote:
Considering the interest charged it's not really "cheap" money. And given the fact our govt makes huge profits on the backs of students, maybe it's time for us to rethink how students pay for their school?
It is cheap money. The schools announce 4-8% increases in tuition and expenses every year and the students cough it up. It doesn't make any difference that interest is charged or the government is making profits. From the schools' viewpoint it's cheap. Maybe even free.
Oct 10, 2014 16:31:06 #
PrairieSeasons wrote:
It is cheap money. The schools announce 4-8% increases in tuition and expenses every year and the students cough it up. It doesn't make any difference that interest is charged or the government is making profits. From the schools' viewpoint it's cheap. Maybe even free.
LOL um.. okay.. whatever. I haven't been to college since the 80's.... back then it was still inexpensive. California used to be free... then Reagan came along and screwed everything up.
Oct 10, 2014 16:39:54 #
cneajna wrote:
LOL um.. okay.. whatever. I haven't been to college since the 80's.... back then it was still inexpensive. California used to be free... then Reagan came along and screwed everything up.
Saint Ronnie screwed something up? These guys would never believe you. :(
Oct 10, 2014 18:06:27 #
Everyone pays taxes to fund free K-12 education. I firmly believe we need to fund free higher education for anyone who qualifies. Just like it used to be in California. You want to go to Yale, or Stanford, or go out of state, then you're on your own financially. But you should be able to attend a four year state school for free, paid for by the taxpayers.
Oct 10, 2014 18:29:40 #
tschmath wrote:
Everyone pays taxes to fund free K-12 education. I firmly believe we need to fund free higher education for anyone who qualifies. Just like it used to be in California. You want to go to Yale, or Stanford, or go out of state, then you're on your own financially. But you should be able to attend a four year state school for free, paid for by the taxpayers.
Free higher education sounds good in principle, but it would be mismanaged just like K-12. Those with a liberal agenda would end up dominating curriculum and classroom, pedagogy would become even further politicized and we would see a spiral to the lowest common denominator.
Oct 10, 2014 18:30:47 #
tschmath wrote:
Everyone pays taxes to fund free K-12 education. I firmly believe we need to fund free higher education for anyone who qualifies. Just like it used to be in California. You want to go to Yale, or Stanford, or go out of state, then you're on your own financially. But you should be able to attend a four year state school for free, paid for by the taxpayers.
Sounds like a plan. What we're doing now isn't working. People have outrageous debts even before they buy a home. Elizabeth Warren is trying to bring this to the forefront.
Oct 10, 2014 21:11:34 #
PrairieSeasons wrote:
Free higher education sounds good in principle, but it would be mismanaged just like K-12. Those with a liberal agenda would end up dominating curriculum and classroom, pedagogy would become even further politicized and we would see a spiral to the lowest common denominator.
I'm more inclined to believe that those with a conservative agenda would screw it up (just like Saint Ronnie).
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