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Oct 2, 2014 13:10:27   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
markly86 wrote:
I have both a CP and a variable ND filter by Marumi and have found both to be excellent. Clear glass and well made thin frames (aluminum not brass). There's a little filter place up I Idaho I think that usually stocks them and has good service and prices. I agree with Mt Shooter that that the BW brass ones are the best but for the price Marumi does offer good value.

I use the magnetic Xume adapters, so I never don't have to screw them on and off.

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Oct 2, 2014 13:13:35   #
markly86 Loc: Humboldt County CA
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I use the magnetic Xume adapters, so I never don't have to screw them on and off.


Tell me more perhaps a link. Very interesting.

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Oct 2, 2014 13:13:51   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
How do they work with lenses that have plastic filter mounts ? (many of the kit lenses do)
jerryc41 wrote:
I use the magnetic Xume adapters, so I never don't have to screw them on and off.

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Oct 3, 2014 12:53:58   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
Screamin Scott wrote:
How do they work with lenses that have plastic filter mounts ? (many of the kit lenses do)


Actually, virtually all Canon lenses from kit through L-series now use plastic filter threads, so binding is rarely an issue.


However, it can't hurt to have brass mount filters, in case you ever need to use them on an aluminum barrel (that's where thread galling is the most likely, when it's aluminum to aluminum).

I would NEVER use anything magnetic around a digital camera.... I suspect it would be very easy to corrupt any memory card that got near the magnet. Heck, I've seen credit cards and similar, with their magnetic stripes, corrupted by being carried in the same pocket as a cell phone!

"Universal" rectangular filter systems such as Lee are great for certain things... but are uncoated or single coated optical plastic that's easily scratched, plus can be difficult to shade very well. I prefer to use round, screw-in filters as much as possible, that can be fitted under the lens' matching hood.

OP, I mostly use the B+W MRC or Kaësemann C-Pols. They are excellent quality Schott glass, mounted in brass and multi-coated to minimize flare issues. The Kaësemann is further sealed against moisture.

For use on a 24mm lens, with B+W you most likely would not need a more expensive "slim"version. B+W's standard mounting rings are pretty narrow to begin with. I've used them on 16mm, 17mm and 20mm wide lenses on full frame (10mm wide on crop cameras) without any vignetting issues at all. Some "slim" filters also don't have front threads, so cannot be capped with a typical lens cap. A special cap is sometimes available for use with them.

I've also used Hoya HMC, SHMC and HD/HD2... and found them to be excellent quality, too.

And I've heard a lot of good reports about Marumi, though I've never yet used them.

Heliopan, Nikon, Zeiss, Singh-Ray are more top quality filter manufacturers. Vivitar and Tiffen have offered some good ones, too.

However all manufacturers offer a variety of grades. I know B+W offers 4 or 5 grades of C-Pol and Hoya offers f or 6... at different price ranges.

Many "name brands" don't actually make their own filters at all... they just buy them from someone else and have their name printed on them. Vivitar has always been one of the largest "rebranders" in the photo industry. Kodak and Polaroid do a lot of this, too. But Vivitar practically invented the practice beginning in the 1960s and 1970s. For the past 30 years or more, nearly everything sold under the Vivitar name has been outsourced. Not that this is necessarily a bad thing. Outsourced items can be quite good, too.

Sigma appears to relabel filters, too. I suspect Canon does as well (and all Canon filters appear to be single coated, which would make them very overpriced). Don't know, but wouldn't be surprised if Nikon does this too. Usually camera and lens manufacturers don't make their own filters.

To get a good C-Pol, look for high quality glass and a neutral filter that won't add a tint to your images. I'd also recommend multi-coatings, mainly to minimize flare issues (some of the more recent one such as Hoya's HD2 and B+W's "Nano" are more scratch resistant as well as easier to clean). And don't be too cheap. I don't know, but would strongly suspect a $20 C-Pol would best be used for skeet shooting or as an air hockey puck or a coaster to keep your ice tea from sweating on your nice wood coffee table. You generally "get what you pay for".

EDIT:

Quote:
http://www.lenstip.com/115.4-article-Polarizing_filters_test_Results_and_summary.html


I take the above comparison with a grain of salt. Notice how the B+W "standard" Kaësemann fails miserably, while the B+W "slim" KSM is rated the best? Reading that closely, the author/tester mentions that the "standard" KSM they tested turned out to be a linear polarizer that somehow was mislabeled, a very obvious error. No wonder it failed!

The B+W standard and slim filters are the same, other than their mounting frames, so they should have give identical test results (except the "slim" would lose some points in this particular comparison... for being pricier). A reputable tester would have discussed with the manufacturer and gotten a replacement for the obviously mislabeled filter... or at least would have redone the tests and updated the info sometime in the years since that test was initially done. It's almost as if they want to keep the bad data from the mislabeled filter in the mix, in order to skew the results.

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Oct 3, 2014 14:07:01   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
amfoto1 wrote:
I would NEVER use anything magnetic around a digital camera.... I suspect it would be very easy to corrupt any memory card that got near the magnet. Heck, I've seen credit cards and similar, with their magnetic stripes, corrupted by being carried in the same pocket as a cell phone!


Absolutely nothing in any digital camera uses magnetic media. There is no chance of damaging any camera components or memory media when used near or with magnets or X-rays.

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