I was a fan of HDR when and where the conditions warranted the use of the technique. Now with the use of programs like NIK Vivesa and it's use of control points, I ask myself why bother with HDR if I can get the same results without all the trouble and distracting artifacts associated with the majority of HDR which is generally of poor quality ?
Bobber
Loc: Fredericksburg, Texas
Edmund Dworakowski wrote:
I was a fan of HDR when and where the conditions warranted the use of the technique. Now with the use of programs like NIK Vivesa and it's use of control points, I ask myself why bother with HDR if I can get the same results without all the trouble and distracting artifacts associated with the majority of HDR which is generally of poor quality ?
Tell about NIK Vivesa, I am not familiar with it.
I have done my HDR mainly by manual methods in Photo Shop. What little I have done otherwise did not impress me greatly. I was looking for something that had more snap to it, though there were no sore thumb artifacts in the result. I have see a little HDR here that was quite bit better, but in general in even the best cases there is a sort of flattening that creates a touch of blahness. As far as the extreme HDR expressions, with me they fall into a very different category of photographic purpose, than selecting snappy interesting views representive of what was in front of the camera.
Looking back at that last sentence I see some ambiguity. I suppose to their creators and appreciators (and I am some times an appreciator) the extreme forms would represent to them a snappy interesting view. A good rap on the head might make one see such a view directly without a camera being the intermediary instrument. I recall an episode of vision personally, when I was laboring in high heat and my pupils dilated as a result. It was a rather different picture of familiar things. Of course a visit for an eye exam also produces such a condition, but running on to it unaware yet of the specific cause can make the experience strike one rather more deeply.
Adubin
Loc: Indialantic, Florida
Edmund, Nik Vivesa is a great application, but it doesn't solve the major problems when you're trying to capture an image with serve lighting challenges. For example if you are shooting from inside your house, and want to capture good details and lighting of your room plus the outside, you will need to do HDR. Click
http://www.dubinphotography.net/Events/Camera-Club-of-Brevard/Camera-Club-of-Brevard-Field/19961355_STh5dk#!i=1572005629&k=rr9rS3w on this link to see a good example of what I'm talking about. Arnold
Edmund Dworakowski wrote:
I was a fan of HDR when and where the conditions warranted the use of the technique. Now with the use of programs like NIK Vivesa and it's use of control points, I ask myself why bother with HDR if I can get the same results without all the trouble and distracting artifacts associated with the majority of HDR which is generally of poor quality ?
hdr is suitable for some but not all photos. use it when you feel it will help a shot.
enough already,use it, don't use it.how about just shareing on how to get the best and most out of hdr?
HDR is not necessary to restore detail in photos with a high dynamic range, but SOMETHING is definitely necessary even if it's just layering two photos in photoshop and merging the most well exposed parts into one.
HDR is meant to be used when the contrast range of the image is going to be longer than 6-7 stops. Using that software is not going to put information into the image that wasn't recorded.
WHen sensors can cover a 20 stop range than HDR will probably go away; however, tonemapping may be with us forever.
bull drink water wrote:
enough already,use it, don't use it.how about just shareing on how to get the best and most out of hdr?
I can't understand why people post, suggesting the subject should not have appeared on the board. If you don't want to read it, or don't have anything positive to contribute, don't click on the link. Noting the number of comments on this subject, it's clear to me that enough people had interest to make it a worthwhile post. If you want to ask a different question, start your own link. Just sayin'...
Thanks Adubin. Real good examples of using HDR.
Adubin wrote:
Edmund, Nik Vivesa is a great application, but it doesn't solve the major problems when you're trying to capture an image with serve lighting challenges. For example if you are shooting from inside your house, and want to capture good details and lighting of your room plus the outside, you will need to do HDR. Click
http://www.dubinphotography.net/Events/Camera-Club-of-Brevard/Camera-Club-of-Brevard-Field/19961355_STh5dk#!i=1572005629&k=rr9rS3w on this link to see a good example of what I'm talking about. Arnold
Edmund Dworakowski wrote:
I was a fan of HDR when and where the conditions warranted the use of the technique. Now with the use of programs like NIK Vivesa and it's use of control points, I ask myself why bother with HDR if I can get the same results without all the trouble and distracting artifacts associated with the majority of HDR which is generally of poor quality ?
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Edmund Dworakowski wrote:
I was a fan of HDR when and where the conditions warranted the use of the technique. Now with the use of programs like NIK Vivesa and it's use of control points, I ask myself why bother with HDR if I can get the same results without all the trouble and distracting artifacts associated with the majority of HDR which is generally of poor quality ?
This is a question I keep hitting my head on the wall about. Some may say its another Pepsi/Coke debate....I tend to think not.
Why bother with the time and trouble it takes to do good work in the field? Why not just let NIK and Adobe tell you how the image should look.
Wow. So interesting that I looked at ugly hedgehog today, that there was a thread started about HDR, AND you had your link embedded, too. I will be doing some HDR for the first time today so it was great to see the comparison images in your site. I hope mine come out well so I can post them.
Hey Bobber,
This may give you a starting point on understanding NIK's Vivesa. As you can see, mention of HDR causes folks to draw a line in the sand... Here's a link that gives some info on Vivesa and it's use to improve poor HDR.
http://www.stuckincustoms.com/viveza-2-review/
Arnold
LOVE your work, how do you do it???????????????
billybob40 wrote:
Arnold
LOVE your work, how do you do it???????????????
he probably practices........
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