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Sep 23, 2014 12:01:54   #
Desert Gecko Loc: desert southwest, USA
 
mborn wrote:
Usually when the file is returned to LR from PS its is a TIFF or a PSD and the changes are permanent. Unless you import the file and convert to a smart object then you can take the file back into PS and make changes


So, if any edits in Ps are saved with a different extension, the original image will still exist, right? It is important to me to keep the original file while I am learning, just in case I really mess one up.

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Sep 23, 2014 12:11:20   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
minniev wrote:
You're right, that is a common misconception. The files are wherever you put them; however, the Lightroom editing "instructions" are not applied to those files but instead reside in the associated LR catalog files. The notion that the LR edits have somehow attached themselves to the original files is a second misconception.


This statement too is a misconception. By default the changes are also stored in a "sidecar" file attached to the image file. You can change a preference in Lightroom to have that change information (xml) stored within the original file.

I think (but am not positive) that if you then open an image with the stored xml data directly from Photoshop (i.e. not going through Lightroom) it WILL show the Lightroom changes.

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Sep 23, 2014 12:14:17   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
Desert Gecko wrote:
So, if any edits in Ps are saved with a different extension, the original image will still exist, right? It is important to me to keep the original file while I am learning, just in case I really mess one up.


Lightroom does that automatically for you. You don't have to "save as" with a different extension as you have to do with Photoshop or Elements. Lightroom doesn't affect the original image; it just makes a list of those changes. That list is stored in the Catalog and in a "sidecar" file, unless you change a Lightroom preference to save that list with the original file. Even if you do the latter if you open the image with a non-Adobe program it won't see that list: it will show the original image only.

But if you open an image directly with another program (e.g. Photoshop), change it, and then save it those changes will affect the stored file. If the file name changes in any way Lightroom won't be able to find it directly. You'd need to synch the folder for Lightroom to find it.

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Sep 23, 2014 14:27:23   #
Mark7829 Loc: Calfornia
 
minniev wrote:
You're right, that is a common misconception. The files are wherever you put them; however, the Lightroom editing "instructions" are not applied to those files but instead reside in the associated LR catalog files. The notion that the LR edits have somehow attached themselves to the original files is a second misconception. This does mean that one can't drag original image files willy nilly around the computer like they would before - they must be moved "within" the LR interface or LR won't know where they are anymore and will show you the dreaded "?" when you click on the image.

I respect everyone's right to choose what they prefer. We need to find file structures that fit the way we think and work. For me, though, putting all my raw files into a dated file structure and managing them and their resultant edits from within LR with key wording and collections is much preferable to the rather clunky way I had to do things in the years I spent with Bridge.
You're right, that is a common misconception. The ... (show quote)


I don't have a problem in Bridge as I do have a organizational structure. For one thing, I throw out 95% of the shots I take. Most are duplicates with slight variations on perspective or slight differences on shutter, ISO or aperture. I only keep the best. if you keep them all in Bridge or LR you will have problems. I also convert to dng, launch into Bridge and ACR. The information from ACR is embedded with the original. It can't be lost or misplaced. I don't ever have to worry about losing the link.

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