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Sep 16, 2014 20:44:37   #
BamaTexan Loc: Deep in the heart of Texas
 
Can someone please tell me what causes the "swirls" in the background of this photo and how to avoid them if possible? I shoot in raw and use PSE11 for PP.


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Sep 16, 2014 20:54:47   #
oldtigger Loc: Roanoke Virginia-USA
 
BamaTexan wrote:
Can someone please tell me what causes the "swirls" in the background of this photo and how to avoid them if possible? I shoot in raw and use PSE11 for PP.


if that isn't a stacked image i would say the lens has 'poor' bokeh.

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Sep 16, 2014 21:43:33   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
That is banding likely caused by something you did in photo element.

Check you PM, please

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Sep 16, 2014 21:44:20   #
nakkh Loc: San Mateo, Ca
 
Those are Jpeg compression artifacts. When you save your image you may have your jpeg settings set to low quality. Check your jpeg save settings.
BamaTexan wrote:
Can someone please tell me what causes the "swirls" in the background of this photo and how to avoid them if possible? I shoot in raw and use PSE11 for PP.


I posted some high quality (low compression) and low quality (high compression) photos to demonstrate

low quality
low quality...

High quality
High quality...

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Sep 16, 2014 21:52:55   #
oldtigger Loc: Roanoke Virginia-USA
 
Rongnongno wrote:
That is banding likely caused by something you did in photo element.

Check you PM, please


stupid me, i assumed he would have checked to see if it had banding/halo before he peed on it.

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Sep 16, 2014 21:55:13   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
oldtigger wrote:
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:shock: :?:

Check pm is unrelated to subject.

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Sep 16, 2014 22:11:57   #
BamaTexan Loc: Deep in the heart of Texas
 
Thank you all for your responses, I believe I did set the Jpeg to low quality. I will check tomorrow.

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Sep 17, 2014 00:29:04   #
GTinSoCal Loc: Palmdale, CA
 
That's called posterization.

It happens when a nice gradual fade from one color to another is redefined in fewer colors/shades.

It can make for an amazingly beautiful effect, but really sucks when you aren't looking for it.

GT

normal
normal...

posterized
posterized...

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Sep 17, 2014 05:52:26   #
MIKE GALLAGHER Loc: New Zealand
 
Rongnongno
"see if it had banding/halo before he peed on it" is a bit of a distant relative too!

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Sep 17, 2014 06:01:10   #
MIKE GALLAGHER Loc: New Zealand
 
GTinSoCal
Thanks for that. A brilliant explanation.

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Sep 17, 2014 07:00:32   #
oldtigger Loc: Roanoke Virginia-USA
 
MIKE GALLAGHER wrote:
Rongnongno
"see if it had banding/halo before he peed on it" is a bit of a distant relative too!


Banding is such a constant threat when stacking images that we tend to shy away from any shading/fading in our images or add it after the stack is completed.

Still, there are those rare occasions when the swoops and swirls can enhance or frame a subject.
And i'm sure every one of us has used compression of the dynamic range in order to obtain a little pseudo sharpening of an otherwise soft image.
Perhaps even going so far as nudging that contrast slider on occasion.?

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Sep 17, 2014 08:37:10   #
nikon_jon Loc: Northeast Arkansas
 
Those bands are usually the result of low resolution, whether your jpeg compression is set wrong or you are just shooting at too low resolution setting in the camera. Either way, the camera isn't capturing enough information to blend the colors in the background of the photo. It is more apparent in the soft out of focus areas of a photo because, as for instance with your frog, it is sharply focused and there are details in that area of the pic that tend to mask the effect you are getting in the background.

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Sep 17, 2014 11:00:13   #
Otis
 
GTinSoCal wins the prize.

quote=BamaTexan]Can someone please tell me what causes the "swirls" in the background of this photo and how to avoid them if possible? I shoot in raw and use PSE11 for PP.[/quote]

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Sep 17, 2014 11:03:03   #
GTinSoCal Loc: Palmdale, CA
 
Otis wrote:
GTinSoCal wins the prize.

quote=BamaTexan]Can someone please tell me what causes the "swirls" in the background of this photo and how to avoid them if possible? I shoot in raw and use PSE11 for PP.
[/quote]

Ooh ooh
What do I win?!
:-D

I really love how everyone is so helpful on this forum :-)
Gives me a warm feeling inside

GT

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Sep 17, 2014 11:21:34   #
Bozsik Loc: Orangevale, California
 
GTinSoCal wrote:
That's called posterization.

It happens when a nice gradual fade from one color to another is redefined in fewer colors/shades.

It can make for an amazingly beautiful effect, but really sucks when you aren't looking for it.

GT


Relevant and accurate answer. :thumbup: :thumbup:

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