Found them in PSE 11.
Expert Mode, click onto the + sign (bottom right of screen "Graphics"
At the top right there are two or three drop down boxes,
Choose By object in the first box, Frames in the box underneath, then Show All in the top right box.
I think you can get to different frames somehow by manipulating the boxes and also going in via Fx mode and/or by clicking on the word little triangle next to the word Create at the very top right.
Thank you again. Got it, now. I wish you were here or I was there. I would buy you a pint (or maybe two....or three?) and some pub grub. Is that right? Good food? Anyway, thanks again.